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Generic Pilot 12-28-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HIFLYR (Post 2945996)
I will bet you the gentlemanly wager of 1.00 usd just like in the movie Trading Places that 50yrs from now South Florida and the Florida Keys will still be pretty much the way they are now. I can only go 50 years as I am 57 now and this is if we just hold the current environmental improvements in place.

Keep the $1.
Key West is already changing. Flooding is more of a problem, not catastrophic, but an increasing problem.

The Florida Keys and Everglades, coastal communities and similar areas are vulnerable due to poor building choices and standards and are Canaries in a Coal Mine.

You're not going to see a sudden tsunami and *BOOM* flooding and global warming. The changes will be subtle and non-obvious ways. The first will be home value and insurance prices. This will ripple to local and state level short comings and tax increases for everyone. A simple 1% drain on an local/state/federal government for infrastructure mitigation will have wide reaching consequences to the ability to counteract other emergencies in the future.

Now, don't bother believing all those pesky "scientists" who get all of that fancy book learnin'. Follow the money. The insurance companies believe in the sea level rise. Ask some who lives on the coast. The military believes in the sea level rise. Many ocean facing bases are having sea walls and drainage upgraded.

But you all know better than the specialists because "I'm a Pilot" :rolleyes:

So let's look at the key points of the thread:
Wealth Distribution (Meaning SOCIALISM [so scary])
16 year old hurt my feelings/made me clutch my pearls
Russia/China Conspiracy
Something Something… Al Gore
Science isn't real
Trust the Russian government propaganda more than science
Unproven Nuclear theories
Dey Gunna Take our Planez!!1!1 (gunz)
Active Cognitive Dissonance
LIBURALZ!!
Too much consensus is bad because, reasons
Cow farts
No, YOU'RE a Flat Earther!!
But it's cold outside...
But the dinosaurs....

I need someone to say something about Tesla, polar bears and gay frogs so I can finish my BINGO card.

Aeirum 12-28-2019 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fdxlag2 (Post 2946534)

Source:

The Daily Caller a right-wing news and opinion website based in Washington, D.C. It was founded by now Fox News host Tucker Carlson and political pundit Neil Patel in 2010. Launched as a "conservative answer to The Huffington Post". Their Slogan "The Daily Caller is a 24-hour news publication providing its audience with original reporting, thought-provoking commentary and breaking news."

Claim

300 Scientists Want NOAA To Stop Hiding Its Global Warming Data.

Source

Texas Republican Rep. Lamar Smith.

"Smith launched an investigation into NOAA’s study last summer over concerns it was pushed out to bolster President Barack Obama’s political agenda."



As the word implies global warming is a global issue. Smith is making this an American political issue which of course is a fallacy. You are forming your opinion based on unvetted and politically biased "news outlets" and using the internet to become misinformed.

If you want information on climate change you should take off your global conspiracy hat for a minute and visit various EPA's of the world. If you want to dig deeper there are several published whitepapers on the subject.

...The right-wing-Huffington post vs. the GLOBAL scientific community. How can this even be a thing!?! ...and amongst supposedly educated people!

Fdxlag2 12-28-2019 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeirum (Post 2946605)

...You are forming your opinion based on unvetted and politically biased "news outlets" and using the internet to become misinformed...

Self awareness is not your strongpoint. The Daily Caller is certainly no more biased than the New York Times or CNN. I noticed you didn’t refute anything just attacked the messengers.

Aeirum 12-28-2019 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fdxlag2 (Post 2946638)
Self awareness is not your strongpoint. The Daily Caller is certainly no more biased than the New York Times or CNN. I noticed you didn’t refute anything just attacked the messengers.

That’s right. I didn’t counter your “news outlet” source with other news outlets. I countered with statements from actual environmental agencies who do not have anything to do with the American media machine.

galaxy flyer 12-28-2019 06:05 PM

Ok, Aerium and Generic Pilot,

Have you stopped flying, driving, heating your house, eating meat, having a family? Or, not, because it would inconvenient to stop releasing your carbon.

IOW, what you doing to put “your skin in the game”?

Generic Pilot 12-28-2019 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2946693)
Ok, Aerium and Generic Pilot,

Have you stopped flying, driving, heating your house, eating meat, having a family? Or, not, because it would inconvenient to stop releasing your carbon.

IOW, what you doing to put “your skin in the game”?

You remind me of this:

https://i.imgur.com/BDGbxTy.jpg

nate5ks 12-28-2019 09:34 PM

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8724580

At 2.42mm/year I'm not too concerned about the Keys housing market crashing anytime soon. Add 2 blocks to your stilts and you'll be fine for the next century.

nate5ks 12-28-2019 09:42 PM

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8723170

Miami is 2.39mm/year but they're on top of dirt, not coral rock so their situation may be more complicated. Yet, investors still invest and build there. Crazy.

Aeirum 12-29-2019 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2946693)
Ok, Aerium and Generic Pilot,

Have you stopped flying, driving, heating your house, eating meat, having a family? Or, not, because it would inconvenient to stop releasing your carbon.

IOW, what you doing to put “your skin in the game”?

No I haven’t stopped doing the above. But I’ve accepted the fact that there’s a problem. That’s step one. Currently we drive 30mpg vehicles and live in a modest home. We use all LED bulbs and are conscious about our usage. These were decisions made in the past ten years. We have started eating less red meat after we learned that it had the greatest impact on our environment, health, and wallet. The good news is that an occasional tomahawk steak tastes better when you eat them less frequently.

For me it will be relatively easy to greatly reduce my family’s footprint by going solar with net metering. Add an electric car to the mix and I will have sustained my life style while reducing my emissions AND I’ll save money in the long run. Due to an expanding family I’m currently in the process of buying a long term home in which I can expect to reach the break even point of 9 years.

Generic Pilot 12-29-2019 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nate5ks (Post 2946762)
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8723170

Miami is 2.39mm/year but they're on top of dirt, not coral rock so their situation may be more complicated. Yet, investors still invest and build there. Crazy.

https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sl...tml?id=8724580

At 2.42mm/year I'm not too concerned about the Keys housing market crashing anytime soon. Add 2 blocks to your stilts and you'll be fine for the next century.

"People making bad investments makes me right."

No, it shows one dimensional thinking.

There is infrastructure to consider, ya know, one road in and one road out for the Keys. Someone loses. Either the home owners in the low lying areas or the tax payers for the entire state.


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