Britany757

I have a interview coming up. I'd like to ask just to clarify even though it should not be a big deal. I was with a airline and I left within the second week. I only took one exam which was basic indoc. The company was not a good fit for me so I did not want to proceed forward. Do I have to disclose this for my Pria and previous employment history. The management and chief pilot told me since u never took any system or no Sim training ever started, u don't have to tell nobody and u were never here for us. I talked to some pilots at the airline where I am interviewing and they said u don't have tell as it won't show on any record. I personally don't want to disclose because I don't know how it will reflect me leaving in the middle of training and if it won't effect me record wise then I do not want to. However on the same side I also don't want this to back fire against me if I am asked did u work here and u didn't tell us. Would appreciate some feedback.

bajthejino

You were probably never an employee-so theres no employment history. Plus you never participated in any PRIA recorded training. Even if you drug tested and leaving during indoc you never worked in a safety sensitive DOT position. So its not like you failed out or got a type and split. I've walked from several training programs 121 & 135. Its me interviewing them. I'm not going to stay someplace I don't think I'll be happy.

Stimpy the Kat

Thought to consider...Did you receive any pay from the former airline?

If so, it will most likely show on a credit report. If that is part of the future employer's vetting/hiring process you may find yourself in a sticky wicket.

DOH!

dera

Be careful with this though. Some companies have AQP where day 1 of indoc is already a PRIA training event. Also, some companies do not ask if you "worked" in a safety sensitive DOT position, but if you were ever tested, and where. You're claiming that if you fail a pre-employment drug screen, you do not have to disclose it.

Be careful with advice like this.

Yoda2

More food for thought... Even if you get hired and have flown for several years; the company could still "show you the door" if something turns up. Even the union, if applicable, might not be able to help you. Do you really want that monkey on your back? Additionally, the new hire background check is not the only one you are likely to encounter. A major airline will likely conduct another with a captain upgrade, for instance, even covertly. Additionally, In the event of an accident or incident, the NTSB will often perform a background check, which could include companies you only applied to... In short, it is fairly easy for a prospective employer to know more about you than you know about yourself. Your concerns should extend beyond the interview and PRIA.

The good thing is that your prospective employers know that the situation you described does happen, and they likely have a pretty good handle on who the problem operators are.

Good luck

JohnBurke

While I don't disagree; you should leave a place where you're not happy and shouldn't accept employment from places you don't find acceptable, your counsel is risky.

Don't make the assumption that there is no employment history, or that nothing has occurred which can be discovered.

The interview most certainly goes far beyond the interview room and yes, it's a two way street, but don't make the assumption that having begun pilot training or having undergone a drug test, one has not been employed in a safety sensitive position. Simply because one didn't complete the training or qualify for a position does not mean one wasn't hired into a safety sensitive position; it's a pilot position. That one hasn't taken it to completion doesn't change that fact.

With some jobs involving drug tests, I've taken the test at some point during the training, but with others, it's been done with results before any training proceeds.

If one has taken such a test, for example, and wasn't able to continue with the training for failure, one has still failed a drug test for a DOT safety sensitive position, and it is reportable. With that in mind, whether the drug test is passed or not, the position for which one is hired is still a safety sensitive (pilot) one and may be considered. Disregarding it or concealing it may become a thorn one does not want.

MadmanX2

I never had any problem when I left a company during training, except once. And that turned out to be a company I didn't want to be at as well.