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Old 05-24-2019, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kevbo View Post
It may get to the point where rich white boys start clamouring for a national seniority system. An earlier start would be the only way their wealth and privilege could get them first in line. Of course there would be special exceptions for mil guys.
A national seniority list is the dumbest idea ever.

Edit- not true. Dumber still is the idea that white men are at a disadvantage in aviation careers
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Old 05-24-2019, 02:58 PM
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A national seniority list is the dumbest idea ever.

Edit- not true. Dumber still is the idea that white men are at a disadvantage in aviation careers
It's a dumb idea, until it isn't. Few ever remember their former ideology after it changes.
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It's a dumb idea, until it isn't. Few ever remember their former ideology after it changes.
It’s a dumb idea and will always be.
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:05 AM
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Yikes. You spend a few posts arguing that white males aren’t disadvantaged in aviation and this happens

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Yikes.

You spend a few posts arguing that white males aren’t disadvantaged in aviation careers and all this happens

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Yikes. You disagree with people for a few posts and all this happens.
I figured you’d eventually play the victim like the rest of your ilk. You weren’t disagreeing, but making personal attacks and lying. That is hardly disagreement as you claim.
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano View Post
White men are not necessarily disadvantaged.

People from lower socio-economic classes are disadvantaged: due to lack of exposure to aviation at an early age, as well as lack of role models, motivation sources and ... well, money.

To change the filter and muddy the waters by substituting race for economic status in the analysis is a travesty.
I agree with this. I don’t think there is a race privilege as much as there is a socioeconomic privilege.
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine View Post
Well then this argument will never be resolved.

About 5% of the commercial pilot population in the US is female. That means they should make up about 5% of the applications and 5% of the seniority list. If your company has more than that, then there may be a case for reverse discrimination.

My point is that even in the most extreme cases, we are talking about a dozen more women at one company than one would expect. Yet somehow, those few women are preventing hundreds of men on this site from getting hired at a major.
It isn’t “reverse discrimination,” but “discrimination.”
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ItnStln View Post
I figured you’d eventually play the victim like the rest of your ilk. You weren’t disagreeing, but making personal attacks and lying. That is hardly disagreement as you claim.
Link to these personal attacks or lies?
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Old 05-25-2019, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff View Post
Dumber still is the idea that white men are at a disadvantage in aviation careers
Agreed, that’s pretty dumb.

Just as dumb as denying that other than white men DON’T have an advantage in the app score/selection/algorithm process.
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Agreed, that’s pretty dumb.

Just as dumb as denying that other than white men DON’T have an advantage in the app score/selection/algorithm process.
Yep, it gives them SEVEN percent of the slots at majors (ALPA magazine numbers).
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Originally Posted by ItnStln View Post
I agree with this. I don’t think there is a race privilege as much as there is a socioeconomic privilege.
Man, I didn’t realize if you have more money, you have more opportunity in life. Gheez, who would’ve thought!?...
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