The military guy earned it, despite the lower time they went through a lot and proved a lot. Someone's low-time kid didn't, so I'd disagree with you there.

Then there's this...I think her other daughter is at Delta too.



https://nypost.com/2019/03/22/mother...-delta-pilots/

She is. Both are outstanding aviators.

So...someone came to you after you applied, asked if you wanted to update your app, you declined. You didn’t get the job. Do you feel better than if you had thrown in whatever “points” were available to you? Whatever hand you’re dealt, if you don’t play the game, you have no chance.

And your situation notwithstanding, if we assume that females/minorities DO get preference in airline hiring, the numbers indicate that those groups are taking at most 10-15% of job openings. When you concede that they are all qualified (I still have never heard of a newhire that did not meet minimum qualifications), you’re left with a pretty low number of openings “taken” from white dudes. Essentially, you have to be in the bottom 10% of white male applicants to have “your” job “taken.” I disagree with this view wholeheartedly, but, again, assuming it is fact, I would much rather fly next to any of these non-white/non-males than the dregs of the white-dude subset. If you can’t get out of the bottom 10%, expect a long wait for “your” job, fellow white men.


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What's your point? She recently proved her worth when she was faced with a challenging emergency. She did a great job.

Just "identify" as what you want and nobody will bat an eye these days

Relevant:
https://i.redd.it/i05n1m1g8ux21.jpg

Yeah I agree, transgenderism is a joke.
Also do you just hang around here all day looking for things to get upset about?

Approximately how many times a day do you yell at people to get off your Iawn?

No, they didn't. No, I didn't.

I called them to follow up. They reviewed my application. I did not ask for preference.

You don't know who I am or anything about me; you don't know if I'm married, single, gay, lesbian, heterosexual, metrosexual, asexual, or ten times divorced. You don't know if I'm male or female, veteran or not, handicapped or not. You don't know. Why? Because I didn't tell you. Why? Because I didn't want to, don't need to, and don't care. Maybe I check all the boxes, maybe I meet all those qualifications and chose not to identify, or perhaps I meet none of them. It really doesn't matter. You assume. Don't.

I've never sought a job based on who I knew, and absolutely never sought a job based on my genitalia, skin color, an appeal to a "handicap," or anything else. I made that decision when I completed the application. It has nothing to do with "feeling better."

This is an assumption without basis. If someone takes a position that might go to a better qualified applicant, whether it's because their TV-star mother bought their college entrance, or because they have a vagina, or because they have skin pigment that makes them unique, or because they spent a few years peeling potatoes in a tent, it means that someone else didn't get hired into that job, instead. Forget right or wrong, forget semantics, and forget the morality of the issue.

You cannot say if the person who wasn't hired was a weak applicant or a strong one. You don't know. You don't know if the top person who would have been in that class was moved on, or the worst student. To suggest that anyone displaced must have been bottom of the barrel is mindless, and a fallacy.

You make assumptions; seldom, if ever, a good idea. You assume that I refused to provide information that may have given me an edge. You assume the information was there to provide. Perhaps you assume I'm a white male. Perhaps you assume a lot. Don't.

As I said; one example among many, and we could go on for days with the many. You may not be old enough to remember a time, not really that long ago, when at a certain operator, one might need five or ten thousand to get a job, but the bare minimum qualifications with certain ethnicity or gender attached. The ubiquitous unpigmented non-female required 5-10 times the experience to have a shot, and even then, it was a crap shoot. Conversely, those of divergent ethnicity or more tender wiles needed only a pulse, and you needn't guess as to who was displaced for them; whomever need be, as it was never a matter of the upper or lower ten percent, but the disparity of who was certain to get the job, and who was not.