rickair7777

Yes that's what I said. It has to have some accreditation that's acceptable to the employer. Not all do.

dera

You said "some don't bother" which suggested the school has to do something about it, which they don't.

rickair7777

Formal accreditation will require that the school participate in the process. That allows graduates to use their degree to meet requirements for participating US programs, say post-grad education at US schools.

A private business which arbitrarily "certifies" a foreign degree as equivalent for purposes of apples to apples consideration by HR is not the same as formal accreditation. For airlines you only need whatever HR is willing to accept. Formal accreditation by a US education body (US Dept. of Education maintains a list) should always do the trick, otherwise you need to do some research before making assumptions. That probably means contacting specific airlines to find out what basis they use.

dera

No. I think you misuse the word "accredited" here. Majority of schools abroad are not accredited in the US in any way, nor do they have to.
An equivalency-certified degree/diploma is sufficient to meet requirements for participating in US programs. There are 2 organizations that certify these businesses that do the equivalency reports, NACES and AICE.
A business that is a member of either of these organizations will provide you with a equivalency report, which can be used either for employment, or participating in US educational programs. And no, the school abroad does not have to participate in the process. You send them your documents (they are country specific), and they will provide you an equivalency certification.
There are also shady "same-day-service" companies that do this, but they have the same value as buying a "degree" online.

TransWorld

There are diploma mills in the US. They, and low quality degree granting colleges are more common in developing countries.

Caveat Emptor

dera

That is why the appropriate certifying companies have country-specific requirements for the equivalency certification.

rickair7777

Semantics. Bottom line the standards are different for professional certification or access to post-grad programs, vs. just having an employer grant you equivalent consideration.

For our purposes, you need to look at specifics for each employer as they are all free to set their own standards.

If you graduated from a name school like Oxford or Ecole Poly., you can probably just assume you're good to go.

dera

No you can't. My friend got hired a while back at a legacy (when they still required a 4-year), and his Cambridge degree still had to go through the same scrutiny as mine from a lesser known school. They required it to be certified by a NACES certified equivalency agency. The reason for this is that schools abroad don't do transcript requests like US schools do. So to avoid fake printed degrees, they go through a company that verifies the equivalency (which then would certify a fake degree).
NACES certified equivalent degree carries the same weight as a degree from US accredited school for all practical purposes. The schools that have US accreditation abroad are mostly just US schools catering for expats in those countries.
The scrutiny for employment is more strict than education. Some universities accept UK A-level/GCSE/Bachelors from the better known schools, but I don't know if any airlines accept anything without the equivalency certification. I had to go through that process for a damn regional.

rickair7777

In the sense that a foriegn ivy-league equivalent school will presumably pass whatever sniff test an employer will use. Didn't say you could skip the sniff test, just that you could assume it will come out OK.

Not sure why you're so contrarian on this, my point being is that there's a process and that it can vary somewhat between employers. So an applicant should research the process specifics so he knows where he stands. I don't have any issue with foriegn degrees, and would agree that many are more rigorous than US programs.

Whatever accreditation/certification/rubber stamp/ceremonial ritual is required to use a foriegn degree as a basis for post-grad or professional certification in US jurisdictions is not relevant for job application purposes.

TransWorld

So, are you saying you went to a university in the UK or another university outside of the US? No disrespect to you in the question.