JTwift

Using actual or block times?

sorry, title was originally too long.

edit. Sorry! Mobile delay multiple posts. Ugh

PotatoChip

Actual block.

Hacker15e

Block is actual.

rickair7777

Scheduled Block: This is what the airline published as the flight time, typically recorded in your bid assignment. This is typically the minimum you would get paid, even if you fly faster.

Actual Block: Actual time from brake release to brake set at the gate. This is recorded by onboard computers and is what most people log.

At most airlines you get paid the higher of scheduled or actual block (at some bottom feeders you get paid a set value which will be lower than both scheduled and actual).

A few airlines might also use 117 Block, which is calculated to maximize a pilot's available block over a rolling period of time. Technically for FAR purposes flight time starts when an aircraft moves under it's own power for the purpose of flight. Since most airliners are pushed off the gate by a tug, there's a delay between brake release for push, disconnect, engine start, and checklists before actual taxi occurs (5 to 20 minutes, sometimes even longer). Some airlines try to keep a record of this so they can maximize pilot availability over the course of a year. Technically that's what we should probably log, but everybody just logs actual block because it's available from the computer.

JTwift

I guess I should have said t/o and land vs block. I’d guess block since it’s “aircraft moving.”


im asking specifically for logbook purposes (resume stuff)

PotatoChip

If you’re only using off to on, you could be losing 100 hours a year of flight time.
Rick is right that we should only log once the push is complete, but literally almost no one does that.
Out to in.

JTwift

Right. That's what I kinda of figured. I mean, one flight out of LGA and you'd lose a .7 just from waiting in line. Thanks.

TiredSoul

What does your employer log in their electronic record keeping system?
What are they logging as far as keeping track of your duty times and flight times?
Log the same.

Kipp

I also go out => in. Numbers are saved right there for me...no need to scribble down the time whenever we start taxi. Easy peasy