Overseas opportunities for a low time, Multi Comm pilot?
#1

Hello gentlemen, I am actually inquiring into any opportunities that might be available for any low time, multi comm pilots overseas. I understand that there is a line of work available for people who wish to go this career route and I was just wondering who I might contact or what exactly I would need to do to make this happen.

#2

Sorry for the distraction. If you have an answer to this guy that isn't useless flamebait, feel free to speak up.
Personally, I haven't heard that things in Europe and any different than here. You might PM Saab2000 or Olympic, as they have experience with flying in Europe.
Personally, I haven't heard that things in Europe and any different than here. You might PM Saab2000 or Olympic, as they have experience with flying in Europe.
#4
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Good luck. Just to get a reference, take a look at the links provided on APC for the contract agencies. Most of them want CONSIDERABLE turbine time, as well as time on type.
Also, if you are thinking of Europe, it will be VERY difficult with just a U.S./FAA mutlicomm ticket. You would have to convert to a JAA "frozen ATPL" (research it, it's been discussed PLENTY). And bear in mind, lots of Euro operators go by the "self sponsored TR scheme" if you are low time. That's the Queen's English for you are going to have to pay for your own training. At most places an FAA ATP barely gets you looked at if you don't have much experience. There may be more opportunities in the Caribbean.
Granted, I'm sure there are always exceptions, and you may be able to find SOMEBODY that operates an N registered aircraft abroad. But I don't think it will be easy.
Also, if you are thinking of Europe, it will be VERY difficult with just a U.S./FAA mutlicomm ticket. You would have to convert to a JAA "frozen ATPL" (research it, it's been discussed PLENTY). And bear in mind, lots of Euro operators go by the "self sponsored TR scheme" if you are low time. That's the Queen's English for you are going to have to pay for your own training. At most places an FAA ATP barely gets you looked at if you don't have much experience. There may be more opportunities in the Caribbean.
Granted, I'm sure there are always exceptions, and you may be able to find SOMEBODY that operates an N registered aircraft abroad. But I don't think it will be easy.
#5

dojetdriver is right, also in some places like central/south america and parts of the carribean being fluent on the local language is required. I know someone who flies N registered a/c abroad but the pay and QOL is not worth the hassle.
#6
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Not sure about ALL places south of the U.S. border, but some of them REQUIRE you to be born there.
#7
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Check out www.pilotjobsnetwork.com and you can see the hiring criteria by airlines. Some require you to be a citizen of the country, some require the language to be spoken, most require a JAA license, etc. Some airlines look as if they pay really well, but some countries, particularly european ones, tax you to death so take home pay can be pretty marginal at best. Its a good site to get a general idea of what you can attain/shoot for. Goodluck
#8

stop searching......Look at Copa Airlines in Panama...flying 700/800 from south to north america. They are currently picking guys up off the street with virtually NO time. e-mail CVs to [email protected]
-poorpilot
-poorpilot
#10

MobiusOne,
First things first, do you have a JAA license? Are you eligible to live and work in the EU? If not , there isn't much help I can give you.
Just to answer your question with a general answer. YES! There are plenty of LOW TIME jobs out there. Just to give you some information on that, Olympic and Aegean airlines in Greece, ask no hours in their advertisements! I have seen 230 hour guys getting hired and flying 737s. Greece is not the only country like that, it's all over Europe. You have to understand that people don't build a lot of time here, becoming a CFI is almost non-existent, too expensive for most. So basically you have a crap load of guys running around with 250 hours looking for jobs.
If you go to some of the links that APC put on the main page, you will find a lot of CONTRACT jobs. These jobs usually require a lot of flight time, maybe even type ratings. I would recommend this site for you:
http://www.flightglobal.com/jobs/default.aspx
Here is an example of a job that is low time:
http://www.flightglobal.com/jobs/job...--10336825.htm
Second Officers B747-400 - Liege - Flight Crew
http://www.flightglobal.com/jobs/Org...hx?id=10001457
* Job Position: Permanent
* Location: Belgium
* Job Hours: Full-Time
* Job Role: Flight Crew
* Company: TNT International Aviation Services
* Posted Date: 05 February 2008 12:56:25
Second Officers B747-400 - Liege - Flight Crew
Our fleet of shiny new B747-400 ERF is further expanding as well as our long haul network. We are looking for motivated and enthusiastic pilots meeting the following requirements. We offer a comprehensive package and Expatriate Tax status available for eligible candidate.
Based at Liege
JAR CPL / IR with frozen ATPL - MCC - 250 hrs
If you are passionate, motivated and wish to work for a serious employer, apply immediately!
For more information, visit www.tntairways.com and fill in the application forms.
250 hours to fly a 747-400 around.
Good luck.
olympic
First things first, do you have a JAA license? Are you eligible to live and work in the EU? If not , there isn't much help I can give you.
Just to answer your question with a general answer. YES! There are plenty of LOW TIME jobs out there. Just to give you some information on that, Olympic and Aegean airlines in Greece, ask no hours in their advertisements! I have seen 230 hour guys getting hired and flying 737s. Greece is not the only country like that, it's all over Europe. You have to understand that people don't build a lot of time here, becoming a CFI is almost non-existent, too expensive for most. So basically you have a crap load of guys running around with 250 hours looking for jobs.
If you go to some of the links that APC put on the main page, you will find a lot of CONTRACT jobs. These jobs usually require a lot of flight time, maybe even type ratings. I would recommend this site for you:
http://www.flightglobal.com/jobs/default.aspx
Here is an example of a job that is low time:
http://www.flightglobal.com/jobs/job...--10336825.htm
Second Officers B747-400 - Liege - Flight Crew
http://www.flightglobal.com/jobs/Org...hx?id=10001457
* Job Position: Permanent
* Location: Belgium
* Job Hours: Full-Time
* Job Role: Flight Crew
* Company: TNT International Aviation Services
* Posted Date: 05 February 2008 12:56:25
Second Officers B747-400 - Liege - Flight Crew
Our fleet of shiny new B747-400 ERF is further expanding as well as our long haul network. We are looking for motivated and enthusiastic pilots meeting the following requirements. We offer a comprehensive package and Expatriate Tax status available for eligible candidate.
Based at Liege
JAR CPL / IR with frozen ATPL - MCC - 250 hrs
If you are passionate, motivated and wish to work for a serious employer, apply immediately!
For more information, visit www.tntairways.com and fill in the application forms.
250 hours to fly a 747-400 around.
Good luck.
olympic
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