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Old 05-15-2020 | 06:05 AM
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The 80£ were boom years as two-tier, booming economy and first blush of deregulation came in. Every airline was hiring p (there were probably 8 or 9 then, before the first round of consolidations. The 70s, however really sucked, made the 90s look like boom years—bloat of boom hiring in the ‘60s, two fuel crisies, inflation and interest at 18%. So, this is the way of aviation.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bmaggiori
Some companies closing, others firing....

What you guys think?
There was never a major airline pilot shortage. Nor is there going to be.

There will always be a black swan event of some type about every 10 years that will keep the whole thing in balance/check.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 01:38 PM
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You have to look at the present early-mid 20 something mindset today of not being able to handle any kind of adversity and entitlement to a job. Based on that alone I'm betting on a real pilot shortage down the road.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Air Stang 7
You have to look at the present early-mid 20 something mindset today of not being able to handle any kind of adversity and entitlement to a job. Based on that alone I'm betting on a real pilot shortage down the road.

I think that’s a bit of an overreach. The boomer-millennial chasm isn’t as wide as you think, and every generation thinks the one coming after them are a bunch of secular pussies, nothing new here hoss.


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Old 05-15-2020 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
There was never a major airline pilot shortage. Nor is there going to be.

There will always be a black swan event of some type about every 10 years that will keep the whole thing in balance/check.
Even if there was a major airline shortage, it would not last very long. If by "shortage" we assume the LCCs taking guys at 1500 hours or not much later, there would be a MASSIVE increase in flight school enrollments due to media coverage and the general population spouting that "in <5 years you'll be making 150k+." No real artificial barriers of entry (other than cost of training) compared to other professions either.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bababouey
I think that’s a bit of an overreach. The boomer-millennial chasm isn’t as wide as you think, and every generation thinks the one coming after them are a bunch of secular pussies, nothing new here hoss.


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I fit into the age bracket I'm criticizing and it comes from experience. Everything from financial ignorance to ridiculousness on social media and entitled attitudes. The stereotypes are not undeserved.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rightup
Even if there was a major airline shortage, it would not last very long. If by "shortage" we assume the LCCs taking guys at 1500 hours or not much later, there would be a MASSIVE increase in flight school enrollments due to media coverage and the general population spouting that "in <5 years you'll be making 150k+." No real artificial barriers of entry (other than cost of training) compared to other professions either.
We got pretty close to that, ULCC's routinely hiring 2500 hour regional FO's. There was some artificiality in that though, they didn't want guys with TPIC who would likely get called by the bigs in the near (alternate) future.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 07:18 PM
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I'm beginning to think Lucy and the football should be a national aviation symbol.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Air Stang 7
I fit into the age bracket I'm criticizing and it comes from experience. Everything from financial ignorance to ridiculousness on social media and entitled attitudes. The stereotypes are not undeserved.
People spending beyond their means and idiots on Facebook are not age specific. Not only are old people equally bad, younger people of yore could be just as cringeworthy. What did your parents think of their hippy peers, unless they themselves were also hippies?

My History teacher had a great saying: People are people and always have been and always will be.

To come back to the thread subject, perhaps: The pilot shortage is almost here and always has been and always will be.
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Old 05-15-2020 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bababouey
I think that’s a bit of an overreach. The boomer-millennial chasm isn’t as wide as you think, and every generation thinks the one coming after them are a bunch of secular pussies, nothing new here hoss.
Agree, but between boomer and millennial is Gen-X, so it skipped.

Oddly enough, Gen-X probably makes up A LOT of the pilots that dealt with the ENTIRE dark decade (and a half for the most part).
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