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05-16-2020 | 03:11 PM

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TiredSoul

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From: Paahlot

Fact : 70% starts but never finishes flight training.
Even from the ones that finish many fall by the wayside.
Out of all the students I’ve instructed a handful ( that I know off) made it to the airlines.
Even if I triple this number to account for the ones that didn’t bother to let me know where they ended up it’s only 15-20% of the ones that finished their Commercial training.
I got my ATP when I was still instructing.
Im guessing if you go deep down the FAA statistics you’ll find ATP’s with an adress a outside of the US.
I would use a different definition of “made it”.
PIC of an aircraft that requires a type rating is without a doubt a milestone of having “made it”.
Upgrade not PIC as sole manipulator....lol

05-16-2020 | 03:17 PM

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Myfingershurt

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From: MD-88 FO

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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer

Only if you have a current medical, but a Class 3 counts, I think.

Even if you lose your medical you’re still on the faa’s registry of possessing an atp. You might not be able to exercise the benefits of the atp, but you’re still on record as having one.

05-16-2020 | 09:20 PM

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rickair7777

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Originally Posted by Av8tr1

In all three cases I didn't think the numbers would move the needle all that much. Maybe we see a 10% increase? How may active military pilots are there? I did some googlefu and came up with this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...itary_aircraft Removing UAS from the equation I get a total of 12,268 aircraft. (Scary what you can find on the Internet). Assuming 3 pilots per aircraft I get around 30K? Given your background you probably have access to better data than I so I would be interested to hear if the number is that far off.

Few active duty military have an ATP. They get a commercial for free when they get their wings (if they file the paperwork) but they normally don't bother with an ATP until separation/retirement looms AND they're looking at civilian flying.

I was considering that there are a lot of ex-mil airline pilots with ATPs who were never competing in the civilian ranks. So that would make the odds better for civilians.

Last edited by rickair7777; 05-16-2020 at 09:39 PM.