Logbook math errors
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Logbook math errors
I was recently adding up my time and noticed that somewhere during my private training I think I screwed up the addition and am off by about 10 hours (meaning I might have around ten hours less than I previously thought). Whats the best way to go about correcting this? I am almost all the way through that logbook with around 1100 hours now and dont want to cross out pages and pages of totals (some are in ink and some in pencil, from the days before I realized that pencil totals are SO MUCH easier in case of a mistake) because it will look awful for my next interview. Is it better to just transcribe into a new logbook and add the hours up correctly and but keep my old one with all the endorsements in it in case someone needs to see them? Or does ten hours really not make that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things?
I have to go back through my logbook to see what the error really is, but I thought I would get some opinions from anyone who maybe had had a similar problem. I also have had some instructors early in my training log stuff in the wrong column that I have since drawn a line through like logging flight simulator time when it was only an FTD. I guess those issues probably happen a lot in student's logbooks from instructors who don't know any better.
What do you guys think about the flight time issue?
I have to go back through my logbook to see what the error really is, but I thought I would get some opinions from anyone who maybe had had a similar problem. I also have had some instructors early in my training log stuff in the wrong column that I have since drawn a line through like logging flight simulator time when it was only an FTD. I guess those issues probably happen a lot in student's logbooks from instructors who don't know any better.
What do you guys think about the flight time issue?
#2
I just crossed it out and put the right amount in on the last page, and if they ask about it, I will tell them. I wouldn't do it on every page, just the last one and the one you made the error on. but I have no idea if that's the official way to do it.
#3
First off, go through and total up each page until you find all the errors.
If you catch an error on a page before it gets carried forward to the next page you can line-out or white-out to correct the error. After the error get's carried forward, just use the next blank line in your logbook to make an entry (with today's date) to correct the totals. Enter a negative number if required, and in the comments explain what the correction was for and the date of the error.
This way you don't have to go back and change the totals on every page.
If you catch an error on a page before it gets carried forward to the next page you can line-out or white-out to correct the error. After the error get's carried forward, just use the next blank line in your logbook to make an entry (with today's date) to correct the totals. Enter a negative number if required, and in the comments explain what the correction was for and the date of the error.
This way you don't have to go back and change the totals on every page.
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First off, is this something they will catch at the interview? 10 hours isn't that much. I have found several mistakes in my logbook over the years, and whereever I am in my logbook, I make an entry and write in "correction", the date of the original entry, and why I had to make the correction (ex. math error), and then put in the proper time whether positive or negative. Never been questioned at an interview, but I'm not sure if they ever even noticed it.
#5
IMHO.... I don't think they will be looking through 1100 hours worth of pages of log entries and notice a 10 hour gap or anything like that. Just make sure your times add up IE: single+multi+ any other kind of flying and make sure they make sense. It shouldn't be an issue if you made a small error. If you want to note the difference, and carry on to the next logbook, then do that; I wouldn't try to change every page.
#6
Even regionals will audit your logbook...they are mainly looking to see that you have all of your original endorsements and have maintained legal currency, and that there are no obvious signs of fraud.
But if there is a math error that you can find, they can find it too, and it won't reflect too well on you. Find the source of the error, and make a one-time correction on your current page, noting the date and nature of the error. But don't ignore it.
But if there is a math error that you can find, they can find it too, and it won't reflect too well on you. Find the source of the error, and make a one-time correction on your current page, noting the date and nature of the error. But don't ignore it.
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Here is one for ya.... my logbooks AND my military flight records were destroyed by Katrina. I have copies of my flight orders from the military and my DD214 which shows I was a Qualified C-130E Aircraft Commander. The rest is history. I also had about 1000 hours of 121 time when I flew for AE years ago. According to the FSDO office I can create a new logbook with "best guess" hours and include a signed and notarized statement as to the hours and the reason for the new book. I have a request in to AE to see if they have my flight times from my employment there. So.....I have done what the FSDO office stated and we will see what happens.
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