Electronic Logbooks and Interviews
03-07-2008, 05:26 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by SpaceShipOne
So even though you do your electronic log book you also log your flights in a traditional paper logbook?
My last says this:
Name: Josh ____
Holder of Airman Certificate: 12345
Employed by: ABC Corp
has successfully completed:
-PIC Landing Currency (General), FAR 61.57(a)
-PIC Night Landing Currency, FAR 61.57(b)
-PIC Instrument Currency, FAR 61.57(c)
-Instrument Proficiency Check, FAR 61.57(d)
-Pilot in Command Proficiency Check, FAR61.58
Sim: Flight Safety International, CE560 Encore, KMCO
Training Time: 12.0 Hours (6 PIC, 6 SIC)
Instructor: Bob Pilot
Instructor Number: 123456TCE, Expires 9/30/08
Instructor Signature: _________ Date: 12/15/07
Holder of Airman Certificate: 12345
Employed by: ABC Corp
has successfully completed:
-PIC Landing Currency (General), FAR 61.57(a)
-PIC Night Landing Currency, FAR 61.57(b)
-PIC Instrument Currency, FAR 61.57(c)
-Instrument Proficiency Check, FAR 61.57(d)
-Pilot in Command Proficiency Check, FAR61.58
Sim: Flight Safety International, CE560 Encore, KMCO
Training Time: 12.0 Hours (6 PIC, 6 SIC)
Instructor: Bob Pilot
Instructor Number: 123456TCE, Expires 9/30/08
Instructor Signature: _________ Date: 12/15/07
03-07-2008, 09:25 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by Lori Clark
...By the way...the neat and presentable part (Josh is absolutely right) is important because the interviewer needs to be able to read it. This is why white out is a no-no. They simply need to be able to read and understand it and your flying history.
03-07-2008, 10:26 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by SpaceShipOne
Thanks for all your responses. I ended up buying Log Book Pro. I've spent the last few days entering all the stuff into my computer and there are a lot of errors, mostly in my flight training stage (i.e. logging PCATD in total time, logging PIC time in a multi before I had my multi rating) and it all around just looks very sloppy (entries written in blue, green ink). If at all possible I would rather just not show my original logbook to future interviewers at all but FlyerJosh mentioned the thing about all the dual received signoffs. Even after I do all this do I still have to show the original flight training logbook solely for all the signoffs?
03-07-2008, 10:27 AM
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Kdub,
A good way to fix errors is to simply make a corrective entry for errors on previous pages. (Much like you might do for your checkbook).
Use parenthesis for subtractions, or add corrections as appropriate and annotate in the remarks section the date for which you are making the correction along with the reason that you are doing so.
It might look something like this:
3/7/08 1.0 Remarks: Added one hour to total time to correct calculation error made on 1/14/2003.
I'd suggest using a separate line for each error.
A good way to fix errors is to simply make a corrective entry for errors on previous pages. (Much like you might do for your checkbook).
Use parenthesis for subtractions, or add corrections as appropriate and annotate in the remarks section the date for which you are making the correction along with the reason that you are doing so.
It might look something like this:
3/7/08 1.0 Remarks: Added one hour to total time to correct calculation error made on 1/14/2003.
I'd suggest using a separate line for each error.
03-07-2008, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kdub
Please excuse this slight deviation from the thread, but Lori, I have wrestled extensively with how to deal with logbook errors. We all want a perfect logbook, but as we all know in aviation, perfection eludes us. I have discovered a couple of big errors in my book, and am heading into a big interview soon. If not the ledger green correction fluid, how do you suggest fixing them? Leaving them is not an option for me. There probably isn't time to get and complete an electronic log, as I have 3 thick books full of entries and the interview is in a week.
The best way to correct errors is to make a correcting entry referencing the original entry page.
03-07-2008, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Lori Clark
Why are you concerned about someone seeing these entries?
The best way to correct errors is to make a correcting entry referencing the original entry page.
The best way to correct errors is to make a correcting entry referencing the original entry page.
03-07-2008, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SpaceShipOne
So even though you do your electronic log book you also log your flights in a traditional paper logbook?
I do both. I usually log the flights on paper right away, and enter them into Logbook Pro whenever it's convenient. LBP is really just a backup for me, and it's also easier to have it calculate the "hours in the past 90 days" than it is to go through the paper log. It's also useful to add your own time columns. e.g., I have a column labled "X-C 50+" which is my XC time thats 50+nm (still logging it for ATP). My paper log obviously doesn't have that, all XC time is lumped into the XC column... but in LBP, I'm able to seperate it as needed.
03-07-2008, 09:41 PM
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I use the electronic excel logbook I found right here at APC.
Care to send it to my email, since you can't PM yet? [email protected]
Not to hijack this thread, but how can i upload a excel file onto a thread? I created an excel that can sort all those tedious flight hours thats required from those airline apps.
