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Old 08-05-2008 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bertramcheeks22
I was encouraged to log my 40 or so hours of 737 time as simulator time and total time. Apparantly, it's legal since it's a level D sim. But that's it, no logging it as SIC or logging the landings or approaches.
Legal, yes. But subtract it out of your total time any time you apply for a job flying real airplanes.
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Old 08-05-2008 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Legal, yes. But subtract it out of your total time any time you apply for a job flying real airplanes.
Why's that?
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Old 08-10-2008 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bertramcheeks22
I was encouraged to log my 40 or so hours of 737 time as simulator time and total time. Apparantly, it's legal since it's a level D sim. But that's it, no logging it as SIC or logging the landings or approaches.
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Legal, yes. But subtract it out of your total time any time you apply for a job flying real airplanes.
Originally Posted by bertramcheeks22
Why's that?
Because it is not stick-time. Airlines want to know how much "experience"
you have in a airplane. Literally, how much time in the air.

Read the applications very carefully - if it doesn't ask you to back out sim time, then you can leave it if you wish. If you don't back out the time (and they have asked you to) then you have overstated your hours. You may be politely ushered to the door at that point.

make sense?
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Old 08-11-2008 | 12:54 AM
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What about level C? I believe its just straight simulator time but just want to be sure....
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Old 08-11-2008 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DanYYZ
What about level C? I believe its just straight simulator time but just want to be sure....
Log it the same as Level D...simulator only.
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Old 08-11-2008 | 07:09 AM
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I worked in the same kind of program at Flightsafety while going through Flight Training. I built up 2000 hrs in level D sims. I put it in a totally different log book seperate from my actual flight time. On a resume I didn't add it to my flight time but I still put it on their to show experience. But it clearly wasn't included in my Flight time. The funny part is that when potential employers called all they wanted to talk about was my jet simulator experiences, even though it wasn't excepted toward their mins.

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Old 08-11-2008 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DSflyer05
I worked in the same kind of program at Flightsafety while going through Flight Training. I built up 2000 hrs in level D sims. I put it in a totally different log book seperate from my actual flight time. On a resume I didn't add it to my flight time but I still put it on their to show experience. But it clearly wasn't included in my Flight time. The funny part is that when potential employers called all they wanted to talk about was my jet simulator experiences, even though it wasn't excepted toward their mins.

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Significant sim time is always worth mentioning, just don't confuse it with flight time. Anything that makes you more interesting than the average applicant is a bonus...warbirds, firefighting, competetive athlete, etc, etc. More time spent talking about non-aviation topics means less opportunity to step on your crank.
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Old 08-22-2008 | 11:08 AM
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Most airline applications specify that total SIC time + total PIC time = Total time. In addition SEL + MEL time should equal total time.

I suggest you log Sim time only in the Sim column of your logbook and not add it to any other category (such as instrument, Sic, Pic, night time etc...).

If you add sim time to any category other than Sim you will not be able to total your flight time tables in job applications. They are required to total up and down as well as left to right.
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Old 09-07-2008 | 07:50 PM
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Log it as sim time only. C/D simulators can legally be counted towards flight time although a prospective employer want actual flight time only. Even if it can be counted as total time it can not be used towards a certificate or rating. Only sim/FTD training received at a Part 142 Training Center and as 142 training counts towards certification.
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