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Old 06-12-2009 | 04:27 PM
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First of all, to the people suggesting that you should lie and/or misrepresent your driving history, that is completely the WRONG answer. Background checks can and will search back farther than what your local DMV keeps on
record.

Second, don't lie to the HR people. They are experts in sizing up people and they'll know if you are telling the truth. Sure, you could fake it and pass the interview. But anytime during your employment, if they find out that you lied, and some employers do keep checking your background after you've been employed, you'll be terminated on the spot. And it will be very unlikely that you'll be hired by another company. HR people talk to one another.

This is only more important given the findings of the Colgan crash and the fact that the CA wasn't very honest on his applications. You can bet the HR departments at the regionals / small companies are going to be more diligent in their background checks.

Third, STOP BREAKING THE LAW. How can the HR people trust you with the lives of their passengers and their equipment if you can't follow simple driving laws? Yes, we all have broken the law at some point, but some of us never got caught. Unfortunately for you, you have built quite a record in a very short period of time

Fourth, be honest to yourself and your application. An employer is more likely to higher you if you say, "Yes, I do have some motor vehicle violations. I got them for blah blah blah. I now realize how wrong of me it was to drive that way and knowing that it can affect future employment, I am ashamed of it. I did go to driving school and I have not received any infractions since my last ticket." In other words, tell the HR you made some mistakes and that you've learned from them. DO NOT tell the HR person "everyone gets tickets" "I was stupid, I didn't know any better". No, everybody doesn't get tickets and never call yourself bad names during an interview. Always keep it positive, only talk about the negative if they ask about such things ... and always turn the negative into a positive (talk about what learned from your mistakes).

Finally, like the others have said, NEVER give up. There were several times during my flying career where I was told I would never fly again. Additionally, and probably more relevant to the thread, I had four tickets on my record. Three were for speeding, one was for driving too close (thank you Lowndes County, GA). Every interviewer asked me about the driving too close ticket. And so I told my story and I admitted my fault. But I quickly explained to them, after realizing the dangers of following too close, I always TRY to keep the proper distance.

So, in short, yes it will affect your chances of being asked into an interview and thus hired; however, it is very very doable.

Good luck.
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Old 06-14-2009 | 03:45 PM
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Here's my situation...

1 - Speeding (by 5 mph... it's noted on the ticket) - Late 2007
2 - Failure to Yield (resulted in mine being crashed into cop said 50-50 split on fault), - mid 2008.
3 - Running a Red (on a bicycle) - mid 2009.

I'm deciding what I want to do with the last one still, its a $40 fine, and the judges in Hawaii go straight by the book, regardless of circumstances.

Am I hosed... or not hosed?
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Old 07-08-2009 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nolakh86
I've been reading through many of these forums on pilots with bad driving records. The airlines seem not to want a pilot with a bad driving record. So here's my question. What effect will this have on me getting hired by airline. Will I still be able to get a job instructing ? or with a part 91 operation ? Should I move on to another career choice ? I think that I am at a critical point where I need to decide if this is something I should continue to pursue as a career, especially if no one will hire me cause of my driving record. I am 22. Any information or advice would be greatly appreciated.

List of Violations:
1 Speeding -Nov. 2006 135 $ Florida Volusia County
2 Speeding- May. 2007 135$ Florida Suwanee County
3 Following To Close -May. 2007 185$ Louisiana, New Orleans
4 Seat Belt -July 2008 50$ District of Columbia (yep, at our nation's capital)
5 Speeding -Oct 2008 70$ Louisiana, New Orleans(photo enforcement)
6 Red Light -Nov 2008 115$ Louisiana, New Orleans (photo enforcement)

Needless to say five of these could have been avoided by slowing down. I have made a extremely conscious effort to drive only the speed limit. I get teased by my brother who now says, "I drive like a old lady." Doesn't help my cause very much.

I'm currently working on my Multi-Engine Commercial License. I already have a ASEL plus Instrument Rating. I have 182.2 TT. I plan to get CFII and MEI. So I'm still a long way away from the point where I would start applying for jobs.

I've really learned my lesson and I really make sure I follow all of the laws, I never speed anymore it just to expensive. I even have my Fiancee' drive me around to preclude the risk of me getting another citation. I walk and ride a bike now, but I heard you can also gt tickets for improperly riding a bicycle( would that effect it ?)
I have done a little recruiting at a small regional in the past and maybe it's not the end of the world for you - yet.. You need to slow down for sure but it sounds like you're just now starting out your flying career... Several of the offenses you mentioned expire after 3 years, some after 5 years (depending on the state you live in)...

I'd lay low, keep working on your licenses, make sure you get NO MORE TICKETS! and in 2-3 years when you're trying to move on to a regional run a nationwide search on yourself first... Then you'll know what’s on your record...

You don't need to lie but instead can mention that in the past you had a speeding ticket or two but since they'd been expunged from your record you do not recollect exactly when they were issued...

Good luck and be safe...


aviatorhi - the same applies to you... but did you go to court for crashing into the police car? If so, what's on your record?
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Old 07-09-2009 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
"...and I have not received any infractions since my last ticket."
Isn't that how it usually goes?
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Old 07-10-2009 | 08:38 AM
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You have made yourself extremely non-competitive in the job market you have selected. You display a blatant disregard of the rules and lack of maturity. If you were to get hired & be involved in an incident/accident the lawyers would have a field day with your employer. As the "bosses" at the end of the movie "Casino" debate what to do with the character played by Joe Pesci one says "Why take the chance"? Is the risk of hiring you worth the reward? As long as there are better candidates to select, you will be bypassed. It is all about money & assuming liability. You have shown yourself to be high risk material.
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