APC in interviews
07-23-2009, 08:58 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by atpwannabe
As far as an employer using facebook or myspace to decide whether or not if they hire someone could run into some Constitutional and/or civil rights issues. Personally, I think it would be too much of a liability for a company to employ such a method in determining employment.
atp
There are very few legally/constitutionally protected factors which an employer may not use when making a decision...race, nationality, gender, age, marital status, military service, and in some states homosexuality are the usual ones.
Other than that, employers have very free reign to make decisions...as long as they apply their methods consistently to all applicants.
If you are looking for a mature, sober employee who will not embarrass the company with his extra-curricular activities and has a good reputation in the community myspace/facebook is an obvious place to start. If someone makes info about themselves available, an employer is certainly entitled to consider that info.
07-23-2009, 10:16 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by atpwannabe
All of you make some interesting points.
To the OP, I don't think that airlines have the time, energy, and funds to take on such a project, although, companies are coming up with some very interesting alternatives to sift through the massive amounts of employees that are in their hiring pools. I think that the more usual suspects are you used to harvest more information about potential employees. Those would be employment history in terms of continuity, credit score, tests, and other tools that could either get the person hired or eliminated them.
As far as an employer using facebook or myspace to decide whether or not if they hire someone could run into some Constitutional and/or civil rights issues. Personally, I think it would be too much of a liability for a company to employ such a method in determining employment.
atp
To the OP, I don't think that airlines have the time, energy, and funds to take on such a project, although, companies are coming up with some very interesting alternatives to sift through the massive amounts of employees that are in their hiring pools. I think that the more usual suspects are you used to harvest more information about potential employees. Those would be employment history in terms of continuity, credit score, tests, and other tools that could either get the person hired or eliminated them.
As far as an employer using facebook or myspace to decide whether or not if they hire someone could run into some Constitutional and/or civil rights issues. Personally, I think it would be too much of a liability for a company to employ such a method in determining employment.
atp
Do the airlines have people who do nothing but scour the internet for stupid and embarrassing comments by pilots? No. But I'd be surprised if they didn't all have apc accounts and were reading this right now.
WW
07-23-2009, 03:29 PM
#13
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WW:
A valid point in terms of them monitoring the site, but how much more could they really find out about someone specifically from a site such as APC? I guess certain threads have the potential to reveal much more information in general about attitudes towards individuals or certain management practices.
Thank God & the Mods for the TOS. Huh?
rickair:
And the operative phrase is "applying it consistently to all applicants".
But check this out rick, "a company using a social networking site to gain insight as to see just what kind of person they are potentially going to hire". I understand that it's their right, however there are more traditional and proven methods to glean what type of person they are about to hire than to stoop to such a level of a social networking site.
atp
P.S. - Haven't learned to use the multi-quote link just as yet; still working on it. LOL.
A valid point in terms of them monitoring the site, but how much more could they really find out about someone specifically from a site such as APC? I guess certain threads have the potential to reveal much more information in general about attitudes towards individuals or certain management practices.
Thank God & the Mods for the TOS. Huh?
rickair:
And the operative phrase is "applying it consistently to all applicants".
But check this out rick, "a company using a social networking site to gain insight as to see just what kind of person they are potentially going to hire". I understand that it's their right, however there are more traditional and proven methods to glean what type of person they are about to hire than to stoop to such a level of a social networking site.
atp
P.S. - Haven't learned to use the multi-quote link just as yet; still working on it. LOL.
07-23-2009, 05:41 PM
#14
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I know of one airline that hired a private investigator to crack people's screen names here and compare it to their employee list after information on this site was mentioned as one reason said airline lost a contract. They basically got scared after reading what the employees had written here.
Several firings and injunctions from further internet talk resulted.
Spongebob
Several firings and injunctions from further internet talk resulted.
Spongebob
07-24-2009, 09:29 AM
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Perfect example...a SKW pilot recently re-posted some info from a company-only bulletin board here on APC. Some SKW pilots on the company board are POed about it and looked up the guys post history here on APC...they have pretty much figured out who he has to be, and named him. Ooops.
07-30-2009, 09:24 AM
#18
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Also, APC will not release your personal info unless faced with a court order...and yes certain CEO's of certain bottom-feeder regionals will go that far to get to people who speak out against them in public.
And, we've not received one court subpoena to divulge a user's information since this forum began. FWIW.
07-30-2009, 04:25 PM
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And, we've not received one court subpoena to divulge a user's information since this forum began. FWIW.
Sometimes, it's not hard. Like, having your APC username be the same as the email address skeds has for you....
Spongebob
07-31-2009, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BHopper88
Didnt the FAA bust some horizon pilot after posting a video on youtube while riding in the jumpseat...
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