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galaxy flyer 08-06-2016 07:13 AM

Yes, it is all coordinated with HR. We have only training center records, anyway.

Thanks for the caution, tho, always welcome.

GF

Egg320 11-14-2018 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by Lori Clark (Post 966990)
Yes, the PRIA also includes any disciplinary action taken by the company which is in your file at the time of the request.

As long as it relates to 'PERFORMANCE' that is aviation related. They are not supposed to report things like

1. Poor attendance record or calling sick for reserve frequently etc
2. Fired for insubordination or bad attitude etc
3 Anything that DOES NOT relate to actually flying a plane, sim or some
kind of training event or ground operation like a walk around violation of some kind.

There is an FAA advisory circular (AC NO. 120-68F) that describes all of this.

Egg320 11-14-2018 02:17 AM

I dont even think they will report if you were fired as long as it is not aviation/operations related such as violations, incidents, drunken flying etc.

I was told they would not report employment records such as fired for poor attendance or non operations related details due to the fear of being sued.

However maybe others have had different experiences.

pca2010 12-06-2018 08:43 AM

Question
 
I recently was hired by a 135 operator and recied copies of my PRIA records after being on line for a month. I did opened them up a little later. I was surprised to see a drug test result in the file. I did not even now that it said "diliuted sample" negative. I do not even remember the day of the test. This was from a regional carrier that I am no longer employed with. My current employer did not say anything at all. Main question: Is this an issue with any future employers?

JohnBurke 12-06-2018 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2174557)
One of the large cargo carriers just asked if the individual had, in fact, worked here, period.

GF

A valid point, as I've contacted former employers listed on an applicant's history, only to learn that A) the applicant never worked there and B) that's not the company the applicant said it was. The applicant was not hired. Even one case in which it turned out that the "airlines" that the applicant "flew" for were virtual...as in didn't exist. He'd put on a uniform every day, sat down at a computer and flown an online "virtual" airline, logged it, and put it in an application as experience. Forget PRIA...the "employer" might not exist at all.


Originally Posted by pca2010 (Post 2720004)
Main question: Is this an issue with any future employers?

No, it's not. Or, it shouldn't be. What matters to a particular employer is really up to the employer. They're the one doing the hiring.


Originally Posted by Perfessor (Post 2174276)
J
The only means to obtain ‘PRIA records’ is when a pilot is actually in the process of applying for employment to an air carrier as a commercial pilot. In this case, (1) FAA will provide a copy of the report to the applicant automatically, then (2) the applicant must check the ‘yes’ block on FAA form 8060-11A to receive copies of training and other records from the current or previous employer, then (3) the hiring air carrier should see that the applicant receives a copy of the NDR (DMV) records once the report has been received by them. This is generally the ONLY way an applicant is able to receive these particular records.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda.

I don't think I've ever received a copy of records as a result of checking the box, and I've checked it every time, since the program began.

Ever.

Not once.

rickair7777 12-06-2018 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by pca2010 (Post 2720004)
I was surprised to see a drug test result in the file. I did not even now that it said "diliuted sample" negative. I do not even remember the day of the test. This was from a regional carrier that I am no longer employed with. My current employer did not say anything at all. Main question: Is this an issue with any future employers?

Probably not, could be you just hydrated a lot. I bet most or all of my Navy drug tests are diluted since I pound water to ensure I can produce the sample during their desired timeframe.

rickair7777 12-06-2018 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2720184)

I don't think I've ever received a copy of records as a result of checking the box, and I've checked it every time, since the program began.

Ever.

Not once.

I did. Once.

PotatoChip 12-06-2018 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2720342)
I did. Once.

I have every time I've checked it. Three so far. I just went through another carrier and declined them this time around.

pca2010 12-07-2018 11:31 AM

Thanks for the input.

ItnStln 12-10-2018 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2720184)
Even one case in which it turned out that the "airlines" that the applicant "flew" for were virtual...as in didn't exist. He'd put on a uniform every day, sat down at a computer and flown an online "virtual" airline, logged it, and put it in an application as experience. Forget PRIA...the "employer" might not exist at all.

Sometimes peoples’ ignorance amazes me. What was his reason for listing a virtual airline?


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