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Old 05-07-2010 | 09:55 AM
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Where does PIC time in a Piper Cheyenne part 135 get you? Just curious on how valuable that time is. Do major airlines and LCCs accept that time or is it too "light" of an aircraft? Thanks
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Generally, it would meet the typical MINIMUM published requirements at many major airlines. In the last hiring wave, I recall at least one airline specify a requirement for time in a heavier airplane I think > 30,000# or something like that.

But unless you are really well connected, majors will probably not consider you competitive...cheyenne flying is really more GA than anything else.

If you combined that with some regional SIC, it might work...the cheyenne TPIC to meet the technical requirement, the RJ time to show that you can do airline operations.
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Old 05-07-2010 | 01:22 PM
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Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking. I do have a bit of 121 SIC time. Just trying to figure out what options would open up or what kind of doors may open
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It's been 10 years, but I was hired at United and the only PIC turbine that I had was in 19 passenger turbo props. There are plenty of pilots out there flying for the majors with similar experience. Get all of the Cheynne time you can.
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Old 05-07-2010 | 06:40 PM
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It's been 10 years, but I was hired at United and the only PIC turbine that I had was in 19 passenger turbo props.
Presumably that was an airliner doing airline ops? It's not just the size and type of airplane but the type of flying.
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Old 05-07-2010 | 07:15 PM
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Thanks for the thoughts! Keep them coming. I will certainly soak up as much TPIC as I can get. Like most pilots, I just wish I knew where my career was headed, you know.? When I started flying I had a clear view of how I wanted my career to go. I learned quickly that it rarely turns out exactly how you want it to and you need to be flexible.
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Originally Posted by Gators
Thanks for the thoughts! Keep them coming. I will certainly soak up as much TPIC as I can get. Like most pilots, I just wish I knew where my career was headed, you know.? When I started flying I had a clear view of how I wanted my career to go. I learned quickly that it rarely turns out exactly how you want it to and you need to be flexible.
Amen! I just wish I could get back near anything with the capabilities on a Cheyenne or Multi-engine for that matter.
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Yeah I feel for ya! ^^
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Old 06-17-2010 | 07:28 AM
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It's important to note here that the spirit of the turbine PIC requirement is centered around crew environment. Sure, it "checks a box" on the application but you also need to support it with quality experience. In recent years some airlines forgave or even dropped this requirement in lieu of turbofan time (turbine PIC was instituted before the introduction of regional jets) as the type of equipment as well as the crew environment was of great value.
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Old 07-24-2010 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Generally, it would meet the typical MINIMUM published requirements at many major airlines. In the last hiring wave, I recall at least one airline specify a requirement for time in a heavier airplane I think > 30,000# or something like that.

But unless you are really well connected, majors will probably not consider you competitive...cheyenne flying is really more GA than anything else.

If you combined that with some regional SIC, it might work...the cheyenne TPIC to meet the technical requirement, the RJ time to show that you can do airline operations.
Everything counts, some more than others. Cheyenne time is certainly more valuable than Seminole time. Get it while you can. Keep your eyes open for sound opportunities in larger airplanes. When they really needed pilots, the airlines hired people with nothing more serious than Apache time.
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