asims33

Ok so before i get torched with the flamers. I do know this subject has came up.


Circumstances have changed in my opinion though so i would like some feed back.


With AWAC, American Eagle, and Delta all either hiring or announcing future hiring very soon, One would think that all the higher time furloughed guys will be sucked up by them. Leaving the late blooming regionals for the lower time pilots when they actually follow suit and start hiring as well. My question is what do you guys think will be a competitive amount of hours for an FO at these airlines, with congress about to make hiring people pretty difficult is it safe to say airlines will lower minimums to grab as many as possible before the bill is passed? Or will the time requirements stay up around 1000 TT and 200 Multi?

Im sitting at 400 hours with 140 hours multi working on CFII and MEI right now, I also have the CRJ cource from ATP to make be a bit more competitive.

My final question is, With someone walking my resume in, would i be wise to build to 500 total hours buying a block time of a C-172, would i be competitive at that point, with a CRJ course 500 TT and 140 Multi?



Flame away try to be helpful though i need some advice.

andy171773

Don't buy block time, especially in a C172..that's useless time. You have your CFI, and you're getting your advanced instructor ratings..go get a job teaching...far more valuable experience.

My advice to you, is to work towards ATP mins. 1500 total with at least 200 multi would be a good start

Pielut

Don't waste your money on block time. The CRJ course will not help at all. You do not need to be in a hurry, this is most likely just a small wave of hiring. Get your CFI and get paid to fly while building experience. You are not ready for the next step. Slooooow down, have fun. The ratings and the instructing is the most fun, you can be bored in cruise at FL360 later.

Spoilers

Right now, from what I've been seeing/hearing on the regional level (Eagle & Colgan) is that people are getting picked up with around (average) 1200-1500TT and 200-500ME. I'd say right now competetive/preferred is around 1500TT and 200ME with recency of experience and 121/135 experience and no/limited checkride failures.

I think Eagle has picked up quite a few CFIs and 135 pilots with some 121 experienced pilots in there. They don't want any high-time guys, they want folks that are fresh to the 121 world. Colgan is all over the place, but they won't pick up any high-time guys either that are a threat of leaving soon.

jetblue and AirTran, my guess is those spots will mostly be filled with furloughed/laid-off pilots from USAirways, Midwest, ASTAR, Aloha, etc. and maybe a few current RJ pilots.

Personally, I wouldn't spend any money on CRJ courses, pay-to-play programs, buying block time, etc., because I think it'll be quite some time before all the current furloughed pilots will find a new home or will be recalled. My recommendation is to keep flying and instructing and making CONTACTS/NETWORKING!

Grumble

Spoilers.. great avatar brother.

To the OP. Do NOT waste money on CRJ training. Your future employer (when you get there) will pay for that. Why put yourself through it twice, paying for it once? It's retarded. Even more so if you get picked up somewhere flying Q400's, ERJ's, etc. Save that cash for beer money while instructing.

boilerpilot

Your times won't be competitive when hiring first resumes. There are a lot of people who have been either furloughed or stuck instruction for a few years who, in my estimation, will probably receive interviews before you. While it might be true that it wasn't worth paying for the CRJ course, it has already happened, so now that you have it, it WILL help a little, but not as much as your probably deserve for how much you paid for it.

Keep on building time, you'll get there quick enough. If you weren't to fly at all until you got hired, I would imagine your times would not be immediately be thrown out of the pile in about two years. Depending on what Congress does with the ATP stuff.

mmaviator

why do pilots do that stupid CRJ course. If you want to pay for an airline type rating, go for a basic 737 type for 5k ish. This WILL help you if you want to go to SWA in your future. You might as will get some use out of that CRJ certificate and burn it in a oil drum for some heat or to cook some ramen noodles.

HercDriver130

Get a job instructing and enjoy the ride or banner towing .. or traffic watch.... but don't buy a block of 172 time.

asims33

Thanks for relieving yourself on my efforts, if you dont have anything helpful to say please refrane from saying anything at all.

(had to make the post PG-13 for the admins so it didnt get edited again)


We pay for the CRJ course because most regional websites say that reduced minimums will be considered if you have the course. and american eagle has sent guys as recently as the last hiring boom at AEs expense to ATPs CRJ course to get them ready for the initial training


You can say its useless but i would disagree,


I do have connections at PSA and someone high up on the hiring board said that with the CRJ course and 500 TT i would have a good chance of being competitive enough for the job...This post was for your opinions on what the hiring minimums were.

I do plan on instructing but in this economy im lucky to get 10 hours a week and if hiring starts big in august i wont have enough hours. I still have some money aside for that last push if i need it so the c172 block time at 80 bucks an hour wet is way cheaper and more appealing to me since i dont need much more multi.


So again please give me opinions on what the mins will be a few months into the hiring streak, save the opinions on my CRJ course i already have it and those who i have talked to in higher positions say that it will help alot.

slough

Why is there a chance hiring might pick up big in August?