How long did it take you
09-14-2012 | 02:09 PM
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09-14-2012 | 02:13 PM
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09-14-2012 | 03:03 PM
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What does that really mean anymore? Making it to a jet? Not all that hard.
Making it to a good stable career that pays a wage that is worth all the hardship? You have to hit 65 and be able to look back before you really know that.
Famous Last Words in Aviation: "I have finally made it".
Eastern Airlines, Independence air, Comair, TWA, Reno Air, National Airlines ...ect.. You never really know what tomorrow will being in aviation. Most likely however it will not be good news.
To me making it means having considerable control over your life and earning enough to be able to support your family in a manner that they are well cared for.
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Making it to a good stable career that pays a wage that is worth all the hardship? You have to hit 65 and be able to look back before you really know that.
Famous Last Words in Aviation: "I have finally made it".
Eastern Airlines, Independence air, Comair, TWA, Reno Air, National Airlines ...ect.. You never really know what tomorrow will being in aviation. Most likely however it will not be good news.
To me making it means having considerable control over your life and earning enough to be able to support your family in a manner that they are well cared for.
Skyhigh
09-15-2012 | 05:32 AM
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09-15-2012 | 05:43 AM
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How long does it take most people from coming out of college to get into the airlines.
What college did you go to? Are you a CFI? Does it matter what aviation school you go to?
I really want to avoid being a CFI. I can't teach for squat. I know that is how you gain hours, i would be absolutely terrible at explaining everything to a student
I start flying when I was 14 and by the time I was 18 I had my CFII/MEII. At 19 I had my first CFI job. After working full time for a year I went to college, Vaughn College of Aeronautics to get my 4 year degree, A&P and FCC. I was 25 and just months out of college when TWA hired me but I had already logged a couple of thousand hours while going to school as an instructor and 135 pilot.
Things were great until our TWA/AA merger and 9/11. I have worked for two airlines since then, one went bankrupt and the other was just not the fit. In the middle I tried owning a trucking company that did not work and now a floor cleaning business that I just shut down. I am now 42 and back to flight instructing, yep I once flew 767s international and now I am flying the 172s.
There is no crystal ball and if you had asked me where I would be when I was 42 at the age of 25 IT WOULD NOT BE MAKING NO MONEY AS A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR. I only had one interview my entire career that did not come with a strong personal recommendation and that was with ATA, but keep in mind they were extremely sympathetic to what the TWA pilots were going through an what was being done to us. All the others, strong letters of recommendations, so be a good person and make a lot of true/solid connections/friendships and keep them.
The pilots that are working a lucky, because being on the outside looking in is not fun and sadly there are zero guarantees in aviation. The aviation industry is an ugly one and sadly our fellow pilots can be our worst enemies. Good luck, it is not going to be easy.
09-15-2012 | 07:01 AM
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I start flying when I was 14 and by the time I was 18 I had my CFII/MEII. At 19 I had my first CFI job. After working full time for a year I went to college, Vaughn College of Aeronautics to get my 4 year degree, A&P and FCC. I was 25 and just months out of college when TWA hired me but I had already logged a couple of thousand hours while going to school as an instructor and 135 pilot.
Things were great until our TWA/AA merger and 9/11. I have worked for two airlines since then, one went bankrupt and the other was just not the fit. In the middle I tried owning a trucking company that did not work and now a floor cleaning business that I just shut down. I am now 42 and back to flight instructing, yep I once flew 767s international and now I am flying the 172s.
There is no crystal ball and if you had asked me where I would be when I was 42 at the age of 25 IT WOULD NOT BE MAKING NO MONEY AS A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR. I only had one interview my entire career that did not come with a strong personal recommendation and that was with ATA, but keep in mind they were extremely sympathetic to what the TWA pilots were going through an what was being done to us. All the others, strong letters of recommendations, so be a good person and make a lot of true/solid connections/friendships and keep them.
The pilots that are working a lucky, because being on the outside looking in is not fun and sadly there are zero guarantees in aviation. The aviation industry is an ugly one and sadly our fellow pilots can be our worst enemies. Good luck, it is not going to be easy.
Things were great until our TWA/AA merger and 9/11. I have worked for two airlines since then, one went bankrupt and the other was just not the fit. In the middle I tried owning a trucking company that did not work and now a floor cleaning business that I just shut down. I am now 42 and back to flight instructing, yep I once flew 767s international and now I am flying the 172s.
There is no crystal ball and if you had asked me where I would be when I was 42 at the age of 25 IT WOULD NOT BE MAKING NO MONEY AS A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR. I only had one interview my entire career that did not come with a strong personal recommendation and that was with ATA, but keep in mind they were extremely sympathetic to what the TWA pilots were going through an what was being done to us. All the others, strong letters of recommendations, so be a good person and make a lot of true/solid connections/friendships and keep them.
The pilots that are working a lucky, because being on the outside looking in is not fun and sadly there are zero guarantees in aviation. The aviation industry is an ugly one and sadly our fellow pilots can be our worst enemies. Good luck, it is not going to be easy.
Good luck to you NoWake. I had a couple of friends who got on with TWA ~'98-'99 period. One is now (after several years of "here and there") with jetBlue and I've lost contact with the other but the interim years weren't much better for him (was starting a family around that time too).
I hope you find something soon. There were some good people in TWA.
09-15-2012 | 08:37 AM
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I start flying when I was 14 and by the time I was 18 I had my CFII/MEII. At 19 I had my first CFI job. After working full time for a year I went to college, Vaughn College of Aeronautics to get my 4 year degree, A&P and FCC. I was 25 and just months out of college when TWA hired me but I had already logged a couple of thousand hours while going to school as an instructor and 135 pilot.
Things were great until our TWA/AA merger and 9/11. I have worked for two airlines since then, one went bankrupt and the other was just not the fit. In the middle I tried owning a trucking company that did not work and now a floor cleaning business that I just shut down. I am now 42 and back to flight instructing, yep I once flew 767s international and now I am flying the 172s.
There is no crystal ball and if you had asked me where I would be when I was 42 at the age of 25 IT WOULD NOT BE MAKING NO MONEY AS A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR. I only had one interview my entire career that did not come with a strong personal recommendation and that was with ATA, but keep in mind they were extremely sympathetic to what the TWA pilots were going through an what was being done to us. All the others, strong letters of recommendations, so be a good person and make a lot of true/solid connections/friendships and keep them.
The pilots that are working a lucky, because being on the outside looking in is not fun and sadly there are zero guarantees in aviation. The aviation industry is an ugly one and sadly our fellow pilots can be our worst enemies. Good luck, it is not going to be easy.
Things were great until our TWA/AA merger and 9/11. I have worked for two airlines since then, one went bankrupt and the other was just not the fit. In the middle I tried owning a trucking company that did not work and now a floor cleaning business that I just shut down. I am now 42 and back to flight instructing, yep I once flew 767s international and now I am flying the 172s.
There is no crystal ball and if you had asked me where I would be when I was 42 at the age of 25 IT WOULD NOT BE MAKING NO MONEY AS A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR. I only had one interview my entire career that did not come with a strong personal recommendation and that was with ATA, but keep in mind they were extremely sympathetic to what the TWA pilots were going through an what was being done to us. All the others, strong letters of recommendations, so be a good person and make a lot of true/solid connections/friendships and keep them.
The pilots that are working a lucky, because being on the outside looking in is not fun and sadly there are zero guarantees in aviation. The aviation industry is an ugly one and sadly our fellow pilots can be our worst enemies. Good luck, it is not going to be easy.
This is very disheartening
09-15-2012 | 10:05 AM
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For every line holding DL captain story in aviation, there are 2 or 3 NoWake200 stories. Just look around on these boards.
Best of luck, NoWake, I fly with two ex-TW guys, they admit they got lucky here.
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Best of luck, NoWake, I fly with two ex-TW guys, they admit they got lucky here.
GF
09-15-2012 | 11:04 AM
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Private in high school.
Instrument freshmen year.
Comm/multi/CFI/cfii sophomore year
Instructed junior and senior year and got an MEI during that time.
Regional at 22
Captain at 24
CX 747-400 FO at 25
Hard work is essential but even moreso is amazing timing.
Instrument freshmen year.
Comm/multi/CFI/cfii sophomore year
Instructed junior and senior year and got an MEI during that time.
Regional at 22
Captain at 24
CX 747-400 FO at 25
Hard work is essential but even moreso is amazing timing.
, CX is Cathay Pacific I presume?
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