So I recently failed a limitations quiz at my 121 airline during recurrent... no excuses I had some family issues going on didn't sleep the night before and forgot to put time limits and put VYSE instead of VY just dumb mistakes. I have a failure for an end of course CFI so that essentially makes two pink slips right? I guess my question is how damning is this I wouldn't mind going to a different regional for QOL but has this screwed me over?

 

Well, it's not great. It would have been better if it had occurred early in your part 91 training career.

The problem here is that 121 is SUPPOSED to be consistent and predictable, and anyone who's done it during initial should be able to repeat during recurrent (we all know a few airlines are not fair or consistent).

Was this AQP or traditional PC format? Hopefully PC, because us old-schoolers consider AQP to be pretty straightforward...they tell you EXACTLY what to study, and the instructors aren't allowed too far off the reservation.

Was it your first recurrent after initial new-hire training or have you been around the 121 block a few times?

The good news is that this was not a flying aptitude issue, it was lack of study. I would explain what happened, including family situation, and then tell them your lesson-learned was to call in sick if you have an ongoing personal crisis that will interfere with your readiness to fly (simulator OR airplane). The other important lesson-learned is to do more review in the months between recurrent events...don't go to an interview and give the impression that you think you only need to know limitations and memory items once every 9 or 12 months

 

It most certainly has not screwed you over. Don't beat yourself up over, don't make it a pattern. We are not all bound to perfect 100% of the time, explain that. I have failed a couple things here and there, have landed two part 121 jobs with internal recs and a part 135. All have been great jobs.

 

Thanks for the answers fellas. It was my first year ride after initial and it was traditional PC. That being said I did know I was going to be tested on EP and limitations the first day. There's honestly no excuse I knew the answers just rushed through and put things down that weren't complete answers like torque limits but not the associated time limit with it.

 

I tried editing my post, but couldn't. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I have gotten the jobs all WITHOUT internal recs.
Again, don't dwell on it. Don't do it again. You've probably got several more years at this company, and by passing the rest you can show you've improved.

 

Worst case senario: since this was a company event not an FAA event, wouldnt it just drop off after 5 years anyway?

 

I talked to the lady in charge of our PRIA stuff. I asked her whether it would be on A PRIA report. She said it wouldn't be since it isn't a check ride and it's just a quiz. Still not sure how big of a deal it would be to try and make a lateral move to another regional. I was thinking I might go to a career fair and talk to a recruiter and see what they say.

 

Before you chat with a recruiter, may I suggest talking with your potential networking sponsors first. While I am not suggesting you hide anything, I do advocate the checkride oral response mode: Don't answer anything more than the question asked unless you have a very big shovel to dig out.

Read the question and answer truthfully. If this is not a bust, it's not a bust. In this case, it is a wake-up call and it seems you are moving forward.

Good luck...we can all have bad days.

 

It's not a training failure. It's a quiz. Don't overthink it.

Did you take it again and pass?

The quiz didn't amount to your entire training evolution or recurrent, right?

You wouldn't consider yourself to have had a training failure if during sim training you had to repeat a maneuver. That happens all the time. Same with the quiz. Did you take it again and pass?

When it's a single component of the training evolution and you hit a bump, fix it and move on, then you shouldn't look back or think twice about it. No big deal.

If it had been a complete checkride that you had to do over, or if you blew an exit-oral or the ground school, that would be another matter. It sounds like you had a non-event here.

 

I agree with JohnBurke above.....forget it and move on. Did you get an actual "pink slip"?