Would you recommend your career to your son?
02-06-2013 | 08:53 AM
#21
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I realize this is flame bait but I can't resist..... how does a regional non-rev get ID'd for a proper snubbing on Delta anyway? It's all electronic and the order is preordained by status and DOH. The fact that regionals non-rev for free (minus the fee that even DAL employees pay annually) on DAL is a deal anyway.
02-06-2013 | 08:55 AM
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Unless it is a big factory farm, or a few beef cattle kept as a *second* income, all those family farms (my immediate neighbors as a kid)-they are now tango uniform.
02-06-2013 | 09:36 AM
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First of all, the vast majority are trained in the US at US medical schools. They are not "third world doctors". Second, does this make them any less qualified? Third, do really believe US medical schools are making it that much easier to foreigners to attend? I'd do more research before asserting that.
As to the question. I would say yes, but not with an aviation degree and/or massive amounts of debt. I would suggest alternative careers, such as airport management, but ultimately let him/her decide.
As to the question. I would say yes, but not with an aviation degree and/or massive amounts of debt. I would suggest alternative careers, such as airport management, but ultimately let him/her decide.
yes they are trained at very good US schools of which are very hard to get into for you and I. But for someone who is a foreigner with good grades and is of minority they get in on grants and scholarships.
Just the other day I sat next to a man who's son just applied for 3 schools in CA. UC Berkley, USC, and UC San Diego. His son is not a minority and gets a 4.0. He does not think he will get in to any of those schools because you have all the foreign students applying and taking the spots. Those three schools are the hardest public schools to get into in CA. (for a white kid).
So my point is this country and the school system is not making it easy for the average white guy to succeed.
I am all for having exchange students and minorities gaining higher education and working in the US. but do not put your own citizens at a disadvantage.
I also agree that the average indian or asian or whoever that grew up in another country will out perform the average middle class white kid because they probably want it more and feel less entitled to it.
its a problem in this country and I am fearful for my son who is only 5 months old. what his future will look like.
02-06-2013 | 09:43 AM
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I've got a 20yr. old son I've been trying to 'motivate' to do...anything! Something! I don't care what, just get out of bed before noon and do SOMETHING!!
My son is just not into anything right now, except surfing. He's at the local community college, living at home, but still has no idea what he wants to do for the rest of his life. I think he just wants to live and home and have his mommy take care of him, which she is only too happy to do.
My son is just not into anything right now, except surfing. He's at the local community college, living at home, but still has no idea what he wants to do for the rest of his life. I think he just wants to live and home and have his mommy take care of him, which she is only too happy to do.
Kick his ass out. Sounds cold, but it's the best thing you can do for him. Let him live on his own for a while. See how his lifestyle will be when he is making 10 buck an hour.
As someone aluded too with reference to doctors, I think too many kids in the U.S. have it too easy. They don't know the opportunities that are being presented to them and they sure as hell are not willing to work for it. Sure, the are exceptions, but we have far too many kids who fall into this category. My son did. Finally, against his mother's objections, and almost costing me my marriage, I kicked him out. Cut him off. No more money, no more support. That means I no longer paid his cell phone bill, no longer paid his car insurance, no longer gave him gas money. Told him the world needs ditch diggers too.
Took him about a year to realize he was going no where without hard work and an education. Long story short, he is now a junior in college and doing very well.
Back to the topic at hand, would I want him to be a pilot? Only if he wants enjoys flying. This is a still a good career if you love to fly. Not a great career mind you, but a good career.
02-06-2013 | 09:56 AM
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2. NO
1. I would advocate a more secure job in healthcare, computers, engineering such as civil or mechanical, accounting, etc. I would encourage flying as a hobby but with a professional approach to training and refresher/recurrent activity. The "fly as a hobby" pilot should still obtain IFR-Commercial and seek out quality training events and participate in Cessna Owners Club, etc type meetings and stay current with their airplanes.
2. While I "like flying", at this point with all my investment both time and money wise, it is hard to just quit. My current flying job is one of the "good ones" and I like it. With that said, in my next life, I wouldn't become a pilot. I would pursue option #1 above.
Of all the careers, flying is one of the least family friendly. With countless missed vacations, school plays, time away from home, inability to tuck my son into bed when I probably should, I cannot "recommend" this career. Planes are cool, wow, fun, yes I like flying, airshows are neat, jet noise is cool, etc etc starry eyed stuff. Recommend the career ? I can't recommend it.
Good luck
02-06-2013 | 09:59 AM
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It's true.
I look around the gate house, and if I see a regional pilot traveling out of uniform with his family, I treat him like crap and I make a point to do it in front of his family.
How do I know it's a regional pilot when they are in normal clothes and no i.d.?
I just know. Delta pilots just know.
I look around the gate house, and if I see a regional pilot traveling out of uniform with his family, I treat him like crap and I make a point to do it in front of his family.
How do I know it's a regional pilot when they are in normal clothes and no i.d.?
I just know. Delta pilots just know.
02-06-2013 | 10:09 AM
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I've got a 20yr. old son I've been trying to 'motivate' to do...anything! Something! I don't care what, just get out of bed before noon and do SOMETHING!!
He's got 30 hrs. of J3 time, starting when he was 6, and recently another 10 in a Cherokee 140. For the small amount of time he has, he does alright, he's trainable, but he hasn't yet opened any of the PPL study books I bought for him. He shows no interest. He never once asks me to take him flying. I always have to drag him out to the airport.
I've told all 4 of my kids, "Find out what you LIKE to do, and then go DO IT", because I don't think you can't force someone down any career path. If they are not into it, they won't be motivated to study or do well, in anything.
My son is just not into anything right now, except surfing. He's at the local community college, living at home, but still has no idea what he wants to do for the rest of his life. I think he just wants to live and home and have his mommy take care of him, which she is only too happy to do.
I wanted to be an Aero Engineer and design airplanes, until my freshman year of college, when I found out sitting in a cubicle disigning nuts and bolts for brake systems was going to be my future, if I was lucky.
It was then that I got serious about becoming a pilot. Seemed a lot easier than digging ditches, and more fun than sitting behind a desk in a room with no windows.
But I think you really have to love this flying stuff, if you are going to stick it out for a full career. Lots of people say, "I've always wanted to learn to fly!" But how many of them are willing to sacrafice the time and money necessary to make it happen?
He's got 30 hrs. of J3 time, starting when he was 6, and recently another 10 in a Cherokee 140. For the small amount of time he has, he does alright, he's trainable, but he hasn't yet opened any of the PPL study books I bought for him. He shows no interest. He never once asks me to take him flying. I always have to drag him out to the airport.
I've told all 4 of my kids, "Find out what you LIKE to do, and then go DO IT", because I don't think you can't force someone down any career path. If they are not into it, they won't be motivated to study or do well, in anything.
My son is just not into anything right now, except surfing. He's at the local community college, living at home, but still has no idea what he wants to do for the rest of his life. I think he just wants to live and home and have his mommy take care of him, which she is only too happy to do.
I wanted to be an Aero Engineer and design airplanes, until my freshman year of college, when I found out sitting in a cubicle disigning nuts and bolts for brake systems was going to be my future, if I was lucky.
It was then that I got serious about becoming a pilot. Seemed a lot easier than digging ditches, and more fun than sitting behind a desk in a room with no windows.
But I think you really have to love this flying stuff, if you are going to stick it out for a full career. Lots of people say, "I've always wanted to learn to fly!" But how many of them are willing to sacrafice the time and money necessary to make it happen?
Idea #1: Hire a hot girl...
hear me out Timbo... I think I have a business idea.
Basically, have her come over for a pool party or meet her at dinner with him and give this girl a mission. $500 to show up, $1000 if he goes back to college or joins the military.
Have her say in so many words "the only guy I'm looking for gets up early, works hard, studies, has a goal in life. I don't want some guy living at home... with his momma."
As I typed this I realize, I think there is a movie about this. Still. It's a universal idea.
BTW, I no longer have a second idea.
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