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Old 03-15-2014 | 06:33 AM
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Hi, I'm new here. I'm an Ag pilot, 4000 TT, 1500 turboprop, 175 multi no 121 time. Just wondering if there's any former Ag drivers on here that made the switch to 121 flying.
I own a 3 plane operation but considering a career change
Would I have a chance of getting on with a good regional? Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-15-2014 | 03:39 PM
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I would say yes. if you meet the FAR part 61.159 requirements they will call you in. just have to have requirements met for the ATP. and as the hiring manager suggested, un less you apply you wouldn't know. i would say its a good idea to put in your application in with regionals you want to work for.
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Old 03-15-2014 | 07:41 PM
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I would like to keep my business going but that requires about 3-4 months off every summer. Any regionals that might work with a guy on that ? Or is it full time or nothing? I know the 121 work isn't seasonal like Ag flying. We typically put on about 500 hrs from June 15th to August 15th. Pretty hard and fast
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Old 03-15-2014 | 08:27 PM
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What is FAR 61.159?!?! I have no idea what that one is...
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Old 03-15-2014 | 10:20 PM
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You might be able to get a senior reserve line and keep a phone on you. Peel out of the patch and head out over to the port if you get called. Sounds kinda implausible, though.
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Old 03-15-2014 | 11:37 PM
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FAR part 61.159 pertains to ATP certificate aeronautical experience requirements. 1500 hrs TT, 100 night, 75 Inst. , 50 category class etc.
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Old 03-16-2014 | 05:13 AM
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Me. I've made the switch from Ag to airlines twice. The money in Ag and the lack of money at the airlines always made me go back.
The regional that I worked for had restrictions on outside commercial flying and I suspect most of them are the same. I'm also a real Eastern pilot. My time was short, but I think they allowed it as long as it didn't cause a legality issue.
Most regionals are like sweat shops and they will want all of your time available to them. My experience was they were not willing to work with me at all with outside flying except when the staffing would allow for a leave of absence, but if you own your own business you might pull it off if you employ someone that's willing to step up and cover for you.
Or just wing it and hope you don't get caught. I wouldn't know anything about that
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Old 03-16-2014 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by flylowfast
I would like to keep my business going but that requires about 3-4 months off every summer. Any regionals that might work with a guy on that ? Or is it full time or nothing? I know the 121 work isn't seasonal like Ag flying. We typically put on about 500 hrs from June 15th to August 15th. Pretty hard and fast

No, summer is the busy season for airlines too. A reserve might not work in Feb or Oct, but you wouldn't get the summer off. Pretty much all airlines require that you don't do any outside commercial flying...otherwise they can't track your flight time limits. A few might give you special permission but probably only if you could show that you wouldn't exceed your 1000 hours (in a rolling 365 days) and turn into a pumpkin. 500 hours? Not a chance.

Tough decision you have to make. Can you keep the business going without doing the flying yourself?
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Old 03-16-2014 | 08:06 AM
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Ag flying will soon be replaced by UAVs, which would be more profitable to operate than aircraft. You would be better off learning to fly UAVs than to go 121.
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Old 03-16-2014 | 08:36 AM
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Ag flying will soon be replaced by UAVs, which would be more profitable to operate than aircraft. You would be better off learning to fly UAVs than to go 121.
Possibly, but I'm 52, and I'm not worried about it in the time left in my career.
A lot of things will need to change before it's feasible.
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