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Old 07-08-2014 | 04:20 PM
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At least it would be honest.

A long time ago I had a summer job tending cows, and it seemed curious to me that when you herded a bunch of them to a new pasture they would invariably form single file and walk off the entire fenced-in perimeter as if to test the limits. It was educational.
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Old 07-08-2014 | 06:52 PM
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Lol I'm sure there was a connection between this thread and your cow-tending story that I'm just not picking up, but I still find it really funny.
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Old 07-08-2014 | 08:09 PM
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The original question reminds me of the old adage: there are pilots with 1500 hours, and pilots with 1 hour, 1500 times.
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Old 07-10-2014 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rswitz
In regards to building flight time to meet the ATP mins, I had this weird idea that I wanted to validate here on the forums.

Here it is. You buy some old c150 and simply run the engine on the ramp for hours on end. Obviously the fuel burn would be significantly less than actually flying it and the Hobbs meter is still running.

I realize this is stupid and I'm not going to do this, I just wanted to know if this would hypothetically be possible, and if the airlines would ever find out I "flew" my airplane on the ramp for 800 hours.

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Is it hypothetically possible? I would answer yes, since darn near anything these days is possible, however, you cannot "fly" your airplane on the ramp.

How would you annotate this in a log book? Same departure and arrival airport for "X" number of hours with ZERO LANDINGS?....

Anyone silly enough to present a logbook with those kind of multiple entries for a ANY job will probably get quietly declined during an interview while the xerox copies of your logbook along with all your personal info and pilot cert # are turned into the local FSDO for investigation.

On a side note, think back to some of the most recent high profile aircraft accidents, 'child left in a car' stories, the news and investigations of both pilots of Malaysia airlines flight 370, Colgan 3407 ....YOUR HISTORY, YOUR LOGBOOK WILL FOLLOW YOU AFTER THE ACCIDENT....
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Old 07-10-2014 | 06:22 PM
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I liked the cow story. I also have a cow story.
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Old 07-10-2014 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda2
I liked the cow story. I also have a cow story.

Some cow stories might violate the TOS...
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Old 07-10-2014 | 08:49 PM
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It ain't one of THEM kinda cow stories!
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Old 07-17-2014 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarenceOver
No, people don't rent to 1500. They build time, get entry level instructing or commercial positions and actually learn a little about flying while building their time to 135 or ATP minimums.


Wrong. I know of at least 3 people that are doing this. Including myself. Its called being in a field that makes you money and has nothing to do with aviation. Thats how you fund yourself to 1500 hours without having to instruct.
Do you think someone who flies 1200 hours VFR in a C-150, with no instructing, would be competitive for Skywest, Compass, Mesa etc? I wonder whether they might want to see at least some dual given? Could that kind of flight time ready someone to get through their first 121 training?
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Old 07-17-2014 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Counselor
Do you think someone who flies 1200 hours VFR in a C-150, with no instructing, would be competitive for Skywest, Compass, Mesa etc? I wonder whether they might want to see at least some dual given? Could that kind of flight time ready someone to get through their first 121 training?
Most regionals are desperate. SKW and maybe compass are still rejecting applicants but I think you'll get the interview with 1500 hours regardless.

Passing the interview will be up to you, and those interviews are geared towards CFI's, 135 feight, and 121 people so you'll need to prepare. The bottom feeders will probably hire you on the spot.

But buzzing around VFR in C-150 will do very little to help you pass training. You'll need to get VERY instrument current, but you can do that in a sim. Include refreshing your knowledge because airlines will NOT teach you to fly instruments in training, you need to know how to do that.
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Old 07-17-2014 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Counselor
Do you think someone who flies 1200 hours VFR in a C-150, with no instructing, would be competitive for Skywest, Compass, Mesa etc? I wonder whether they might want to see at least some dual given? Could that kind of flight time ready someone to get through their first 121 training?
Don't know about other peoples situations but having a30 thousand hour american airlines pilot teaching me instruments is probably going to prepare me more than being a cfi. being 135 would probably be about the equal level of experience he has. but he has flown that as well. 300 hours worth of hard ifr and procedures should give me a good buffer to get through flying an ils and a hold dont you think not to mention i have actually flown a challenger 601 which handles exactly like a crj. basically that means i know how to fly the sim and how sensitive it is and what to expect. where as a cfi or a 135 pilot without crm experience probably doesnt. is that a huge advantage over other applicants? probably not much but its better than nothing. where i really stand out is having been trained by an air force pilot to fly tight formation in a cj6a. i doubt any civilian has that training. that usually comes from the military. hope to see you guys on the line with whichever airline choose. by the way this is not meant to be cocky just posting the truth about my specific situation.
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