Hello,

I have a quick question regarding what will be disclosed in PRIA/FOIA with regards to prior employment records. I couldn't seem to find a great answer when searching the FAA.

Basically a few years ago made a stupid mistake as a regional FO. Lost track of time on an overnight and my crew and I dipped inside the "12 hour rule." At the time I had a Part 91 Corporate gig lined up, so I chose to resign to avoid any discipline action in my file in case I ever chose to return to the airlines. Rest of the crew received a warning letter (from the employer, not the FAA) in their file for 2 years.

I resigned before receiving any type of discipline action of letter from my company. But given PRIA/FOIA and that we were temp removed from flying status pending a meeting with the Chief Pilot, do you think this is something that would be reported in PRIA/FOIA?

I was considering applying to the regionals again as we've started laying off at my current company, but I'm not sure how to handle this. Would hate to self disclose something that there is no record of; but also don't want to risk being dismissed due to something turning up..

 

In this same section, search the "Search this Forum" drop down for "PRIA Records". You will get several threads that discuss this. Such as this one:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ca...d-request.html

However, to personally answer your question, no, I would not disclose that. You were never shown guilty of anything and never received any disciplinary action. You will have to explain why you quit your job, that's all.

More intriguing is how your company found out you were inside of 12 hours.

Best of luck.

 

Found out after one of the FAs and CA had a history that ended bad (go figure) and FA turned us in to. Kind of one of those wrong place at the wrong time moments.

 

This should be required reading for pilots at any airline/carrier:

https://www.faa.gov/pilots/lic_cert/...OIA_and_PA.pdf

The only real way to know for sure what you are asking is to use the FOIA process. It would be highly unlikely there's anything bad in your record, but it can't hurt to check.

 

There's some slight risk that the company might have documented something internally just to cover their butt. There's also some slight risk that something like that might get returned on a PRIA request.

The company may not have an obligation to provide you with their PRIA data until AFTER they send it to a potential employer. HR/Legal folks may tend to not give up any info which they don't have to.

I would say that you need to somehow be pretty darn sure that you don't have anything which will show up before you decide to not disclose it.

If you disclose it, this is slightly better than violating the 8-hour rule, which is an FAR (and would be far more likely to impair safety). It might be an honest mistake to lose track of time and drink inside of 12 hours...but it would not be an honest mistake to choose to go fly knowing you were inside the limit.

Lesson learned, in addition to the obvious one...don't drink with FA's, they don't have nearly as much to lose as you do.

 

You can apply to a regional you don't want to go to and request a copy of your pria be sent to you.

 

This is actually a great idea.

 

I did not suggest this because many or most regionals will not do your background check until you show up for class. They get enough no shows that they don't want to spend the money in advance. If something turns up on the background check, they will cheerfully fire you on the spot.

 

Hmmm, touché.