WN is very much a LCC. All the legacies have dramatically shed costs to match it. If there’s less of a clear distinction now, it isn’t because Southwest made big changes. I ate a filet in First Class from BNA-DCA on AA in 1993. WN is (and remains) low cost compared to that.

As for “not the dream job”. No … ULCC captain isn’t the dream job just like a new BMW 3-series isn’t a dream car.

what car is a Delta career?

If their business model is LCC then they’ve become remarkably sh*tty at it.

No. The pretend to be an LCC. Their costs, cost structures and services are by and large what you find on any legacy. One day in the not too distant future they’ll go as far as the guppy can take them and venture into other airframes and markets. And why not. They already charge legacy fares to largely go to guppy accessible legacy places.

a miata, duh

It’s the SWA contract that places them in a league of their own, much more akin to a legacy. I’ve seen Some F9 work rules and they aren’t dream job tier.
that said Alaska is a “legacy” and it’s work rules are far and away worse than SWAs. This isn’t just about business model but QOL factors.

Correct me if im wrong, you're at PSA waiting for flow to AA? So AA is the dream job?

What kind of car is a flow to AA?

I guess we have different views on the definition of dream job. I have a job that pays more than I spend, retirement for more than I will need, plenty of days off to spend with family, funding the kids college since birth, vacation house to get away to (yup and the boat) with all holidays and weekends off to enjoy, 20% seniority company before my 40th birthday, and no cares. If that isnt the dream job, what is?

Point is: It's 1000% subjective. Long haul international is hell for me, some thats their goal. Open your eyes, "dream job" is different for everyone. Waiting for a flow to be the plug at the legacy with the most debt and worst service metrics sure doesnt sound like a dream to me, but like I said, its different for everyone.

What are you talking about ? Their services and structure ? No . Their business is a LCC . They serve have no premium product, they only still have a single cabin service, and a single airframe . Because you may find some expensive fares from southwest and they fly the 73 long distances that means you become a legacy ? No. That’s not how that works . By your logic, Jetblue should be a legacy too . You can frequent find our fares more expensive than legacies. Jetblue also flies the Airbus as far as it can go . Jetblue flies to London now, i guess a “legacy place “ (your words) . B6 offers a premium product, a business class , WiFi , IFE’s etc , all things you find on legacy carriers . What does that make them ? WN isn’t pretending to be anyone . They are what they are. A great airline; that is an LCC .

When Jetblue adds more EU flights over the next 10 years and maybe gets a few a330s then you can really consider them a legacy. But right now they are right in between. Especially with going to London now and offering premium services..don't forget about MINT too. They really have a bright future ahead of them.

JB will never be a legacy . But there is potential there for a bright future . I agree.

Yeah I think the very definition of Legacy, they can’t be.

No matter what “retro” livery you give your plane, you had to have been there to be a legacy.