Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3289529)
Yeah I think the very definition of Legacy, they can’t be.
No matter what “retro” livery you give your plane, you had to have been there to be a legacy. |
Originally Posted by Zerosilver84
(Post 3289503)
When Jetblue adds more EU flights over the next 10 years and maybe gets a few a330s then you can really consider them a legacy. But right now they are right in between. Especially with going to London now and offering premium services..don't forget about MINT too. They really have a bright future ahead of them.
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
(Post 3289543)
You can’t “become” a legacy carrier. A carrier either is or isn’t. A “Legacy” has to have been active in interstate travel prior to deregulation. Some will say the SWA is a legacy since they were around prior to dereg. However, they didn’t branch out of Texas until after deregulation. So, technically they don’t actually meet both criteria.
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3289491)
Correct me if im wrong, you're at PSA waiting for flow to AA?
….. Point is: It's 1000% subjective The point of my analogy is that something can be objectively very nice and not ne plus ultra. It is also not entirely subjective. If you want to go down that road why constrain ourselves to pilot jobs. Someone might be happier teaching Algebra. pay opportunities, work rules, etc. the lcc/ulcc carriers are not the highest. They can be terrific jobs but that doesn’t make them the best possible jobs. |
Originally Posted by ZeroTT
(Post 3289607)
you are wrong.
The point of my analogy is that something can be objectively very nice and not ne plus ultra. It is also not entirely subjective. If you want to go down that road why constrain ourselves to pilot jobs. Someone might be happier teaching Algebra. pay opportunities, work rules, etc. the lcc/ulcc carriers are not the highest. They can be terrific jobs but that doesn’t make them the best possible jobs. Also, you can't just say "work rules". There is no scoreboard. Some airlines have some good rules, some less so. Damn, Envoy has better reassignment rules for lineholders than AA does. Does that mean Envoy has better work rules? Heck no. |
Originally Posted by ZeroTT
(Post 3289607)
you are wrong.
The point of my analogy is that something can be objectively very nice and not ne plus ultra. It is also not entirely subjective. If you want to go down that road why constrain ourselves to pilot jobs. Someone might be happier teaching Algebra. pay opportunities, work rules, etc. the lcc/ulcc carriers are not the highest. They can be terrific jobs but that doesn’t make them the best possible jobs. |
Slams hand on table. Hey. HEY! Don’t be letting the cat out of the bag about WN and LCC!
Scope baby! And flow to AA is the Miata of a deal. On its own, it’s not much of a bargain. You have to Jack with it before it gets on par with a Cobra. |
Originally Posted by at6d
(Post 3289642)
And flow to AA is the Miata of a deal. On its own, it’s not much of a bargain. You have to Jack with it before it gets on par with a Cobra.
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3289621)
You clearly have never read a LCC contract or the work rules in them. Keep drinking the Legacy Kool Aid. Fine by me.
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We're arguing over semantics.
Originally Posted by TimetoClimb
(Post 3289472)
It’s the SWA contract that places them in a league of their own, much more akin to a legacy. I’ve seen Some F9 work rules and they aren’t dream job tier.
that said Alaska is a “legacy” and it’s work rules are far and away worse than SWAs. This isn’t just about business model but QOL factors.
Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
(Post 3289543)
You can’t “become” a legacy carrier. A carrier either is or isn’t. A “Legacy” has to have been active in interstate travel prior to deregulation. Some will say the SWA is a legacy since they were around prior to dereg. However, they didn’t branch out of Texas until after deregulation. So, technically they don’t actually meet both criteria.
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