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Laughing_Jakal 03-31-2007 09:53 PM

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Muthr Fr*()&)&^^%n Savages

kwri10s 04-01-2007 08:45 AM

Will Fix this
 

Originally Posted by boxhauler (Post 141254)
Spoke too soon. The same FO picked up another trip. That makes two for him on top of his FULL month of reserve. Does anybody know this guy? MD-11 pairing 564 on the 12th & 26th.

This is unsat from a guy that should be a good dude. Standby for the fellows to roll in.

Open Mind 04-01-2007 05:19 PM

The guys using this forum to identify other pilots are cowards and hypocrites!!! Identify yourself first with name and employee # , ensuring your calendar is open so everyone can look at your schedule and determine which part of the contract you've chosen to exploit for your own gain. Only then can we pass judgement as to your suitability to critize.

TonyC 04-01-2007 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Open Mind (Post 142422)

The guys using this forum to identify other pilots are cowards and hypocrites!!! Identify yourself first with name and employee # , ensuring your calendar is open so everyone can look at your schedule and determine which part of the contract you've chosen to exploit for your own gain. Only then can we pass judgement as to your suitability to critize.


Here we go again. :rolleyes:


Critize? Sorry, you're not suitable.




There's a difference between an Open mind and an Empty mind.



Flying a Disputed Pairing is not exploiting the contract. Quite the opposite is true, that being the Company is exploiting the employee. We have a mechanism, codified in the contract, whereby unsatisfactory pairings can be disputed, flown only by Reserves, and then be reconstructed to meet parameters of safety and sanity. Anyone who would deliberately ignore that process and fly the identified pairings for their own greed or convenience is simply selfish or ignorant.


Which are you?





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Open Mind 04-01-2007 06:43 PM

Requiring disputed pairings be flown by reserves isn't in the contract or the Sig ltr of Agreement, its a suggestion by the MEC as a show of support for the SIG...a voluntary action!! Read the ltr of agreement and you will see that flying a disputed pairing doesn't screw anyone as it doesn't affect the review process so let's stop the misinformation. However that's all besides the point, that you are identifying individuals while remaining hidden...you are a coward!!! If we had any leadership at all... Union Officers would be declaring this action despicable without any need to "read between the lines"!!! In their absence... Suitability to critize this action only requires a seniority number.

Albief15 04-01-2007 06:47 PM

226 is open on all seats right now on the 727...except one SO on one pairing. He's new...probably an honest mistake. I'm sure someone will point that out to him.

Open mind...I don't hide. Many of the APC regulars are known quantities. Gee, Tony C....DC-10 captain...fairly junior...hmmmm. Albie...727 FO...has links to a website on the other forums...hmmmm. JollyF15 the former flex guy....wow...that's tough to figure out. Even Foxhunter...who often takes the "other" side of issues and is an APAAD guy has the cahones to not run and hide.

I don't fly disputed pairings. I try to be respectful to everyone here. But rolling in after 13 whole posts and calling us "cowards" is a bit silly, dontcha think?

Fly what you want--live how you choose. But don't accuse some of us of hiding...'cause we ain't....

Open Mind 04-01-2007 06:52 PM

Exploit...use or manipulate to one's advantage.

Purple F/O 04-01-2007 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Open Mind (Post 142457)
Exploit...use or manipulate to one's advantage.


So, I take it you fly a lot of disputed pairings. You should hope nobody else flys them, so you can get them at draft.

MaydayMark 04-01-2007 07:12 PM

Part of the problem?
 
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MaydayMark 04-01-2007 07:14 PM

Part of the problem?
 

Originally Posted by Open Mind (Post 142449)
Requiring disputed pairings be flown by reserves isn't in the contract or the Sig ltr of Agreement, its a suggestion by the MEC as a show of support for the SIG...a voluntary action!! Read the ltr of agreement and you will see that flying a disputed pairing doesn't screw anyone as it doesn't affect the review process so let's stop the misinformation. However that's all besides the point, that you are identifying individuals while remaining hidden...you are a coward!!! If we had any leadership at all... Union Officers would be declaring this action despicable without any need to "read between the lines"!!! In their absence... Suitability to critize this action only requires a seniority number.

If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

Mr. "Open Mind", you sir ... are part of the problem. You do the rest of us a disservice when YOU fly disputed pairings. :confused:



Thanks for your help,


Mark


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