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redmanchew 03-15-2018 11:00 AM

Wow 6% match!? That's brutal


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Jurassic Jet 03-15-2018 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by tiredofjrm (Post 2551358)

Remember a 3 year contract means at least 5.

More like 7-10 with ATSG.

Nope1000 03-15-2018 11:50 AM

No retro or signing bonus gives ATSG zero incentive to negotiate in good faith. The 12 year 2% cola is gone too. I shake my head. Y’all could wait 8 years for another contract if this TA passes. Awful

FlyAstarJets 03-15-2018 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by FlyLate (Post 2551128)
Head's up- the "narrow gauge" pay scale will be applied to combi flights when the 757 is replaced.

There are no plans, STC engineering work, hints or magic eight ball answers that indicate there will be a A321 Combi. Especially since AMC signed off on and wants the 757Combi.
If you have proof to support your claim, I’d like to see it.

FlyLate 03-15-2018 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets (Post 2551500)
There are no plans, STC engineering work, hints or magic eight ball answers that indicate there will be a A321 Combi. Especially since AMC signed off on and wants the 757Combi.
If you have proof to support your claim, I’d like to see it.

I've heard this rumor multiple times from multiple reliable sources. The 757 combis will be replaced with either A321 or B737. It's happening. The majority of new growth will be "narrow gauge" and sadly that will include replacing the combi 757s.

hackerbyday 03-15-2018 06:56 PM

Rumor has it that ABX will be getting a large group of A321’s. Wonder how that will work with ATI’s scope. Guess ABX just wont be able to fly them in the DHL system. Kinda like ATI not being able to fly 767’s in the DHL system. Or maybe Joe will just wait out the couple years and the scope language is gone.

BlueSkies88 03-16-2018 10:17 AM

PPM
 
“PPM” PILOT-PAY-MATTERS
I know it’s worthless talking to this guy’s, but maybe it will bring some sense to a few of them. Remember you are not Amazon pilots unless you’re wearing an amazon employee badge.

OverGMcGee 03-17-2018 05:34 AM

TA is now a train wreck
 
The TA showed promise of passing.

Our management leader JV put out threatening letter stating that we should vote it in and the pilot group bailed.

Presently the overall consensus is failure and out union is in full damage repair mode.

redmanchew 03-17-2018 06:22 AM

JV sent a letter to the pilot group that was nothing short of a direct threat to them if they don't pass it. Even stating that the mediator has limited availability if the TA does not pass and that he will drag out negotiations. I would love to see these guys throw this back in his face with an overwhelming NO vote. Show them you don't respond well to direct threats.


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gumpscheck 03-17-2018 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by redmanchew (Post 2552671)
JV sent a letter to the pilot group that was nothing short of a direct threat to them if they don't pass it. Even stating that the mediator has limited availability if the TA does not pass and that he will drag out negotiations. I would love to see these guys throw this back in his face with an overwhelming NO vote. Show them you don't respond well to direct threats.

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It never fails. I have always said that JH and his management team are the best union organizers in the world. They have a unique ability to bring a divided pilot group together.

Theses people are so predictable.


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