Sorry for touching off arguments. I am/was stating the position of Alpa/MEC/CNC

The TA was engineered to pass with huge bumps in FO pay and 80% increases for junior captains. With all the hiring those are the majorities

I find the yes votes being guys with little time left or those planning on moving on. Crewmembers with over 10yrs to go and plan on staying are generally no.

Threatening that this could hurt our reputation? We’re are the bottom now. This contract does in fact pass Kalitta in dos2

That’s nice. Too bad Kalitta is not the benchmark any longer. :rolleyes:

You’re behind the power curve without even leaving the gate if this passes. But hey, JV and JH promised you’ll be the chosen ‘Prime Pilots’ right? All the Airbuses and cool bag tags right?

To let this go and to believe ALPO can’t get any more, is selling your souls to the devil and screwing yourselves and the rest of the ACMI industry.

No it does not, look at the numbers again, it doesn't even catch Kalitta's numbers. More importantly, does the "book" surpass Kalitta, doubtful. Anything less than Kalitta+% is shameful for an ATSG company.

Did I miss the numbers post? I haven't seen any confirmed numbers yet.

Nice letter JV sent out to the crews trying to scare everyone. Typical management crap. They are playing ATI crews like a cheap fiddle with the way the TA is structured. Pandering to the JR crews that aren’t even going to stay at ATI. Just throwing a few bucks at them to get a yes vote and screwing the rest of the crews that actually care about their careers at ATI. It will be down right embarrassing it this thing passes.

Can you share the letter with the rest of us?
Thanks.

^^^^THIS RIGHT HERE^^^^^

I can here JH salivating from here.

Yup. We're supposed to believe that if it doesn't pass we'll spend 40 years in the wilderness, even though management surprised the NC with how quickly they reached a TA. Weren't we supposed to be in mediation for another 2 years? What happened to that? Management looks awfully eager, and they're using the full court press to try to sell it.

As anxious as JV and meth-mouth are to sell this bill of goods.....there is money still on the table.
As a side note : after Monday March 19 ATI might be the last man standing. Stay tuned.

Did you look back at the other posts?