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Originally Posted by OverGMcGee (Post 2547842)

Our CNC tried to go back and ask for an Omni equivalent but couldn’t pull it off.

Ummmm, isn't that what a NO vote is for??? :confused:

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Originally Posted by OverGMcGee (Post 2547842)

Omni is just more profitable according to out CNC

Perhaps do your own research??? That is such a HUGE lie, it's not even funny.

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Originally Posted by OverGMcGee (Post 2547842)

Our CNC tried to go back and ask for an Omni equivalent but couldn’t pull it off. Omni is just more profitable according to out CNC

and you believe this? that is exactly what they are hoping and why a no vote should be cast by all. This is called the negotiation process.

Don't be what your German partner would call you: a Dummkopf

Omni makes more lol. Really some rookies at the helm in alpa!

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Originally Posted by OverGMcGee (Post 2547842)

Like it or not this contract is about to pass. Its understood that this will cut others off at the knee, nonetheless it will pass

The group is pretty well split at about 55:45 and not moving. Demographics are all over as well some legacy guys are violently against while some new capts are all for it.

Ive heard there have been very heated debates going on online and on the line. Fact is we are just so far behind catching up isn’t feasible numbers wise. We have to accept it that is also Alpas position judging by the last road show I attended

Our CNC tried to go back and ask for an Omni equivalent but couldn’t pull it off. Omni is just more profitable according to out CNC

Sounds like fake news to me.

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Originally Posted by Industry Strnd (Post 2548079)

Omni makes more lol. Really some rookies at the helm in alpa!

Not rookies...this is what alpa is all about. Take care of the big boys and make sure the little guys don't mzke waves. They have for years sold everyone but the majors down the river.

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Originally Posted by 2lowflaps (Post 2548128)

Sounds like fake news to me.

Somebody needs to talk with the "young pups" and give them some advice. If this contract passes it will not be a 4 year contract. It will be at least 6 years. One reason..... your ALPA NC didn't even get a penny of retro pay or signing bonus. Why would any management team want to negotiate a contract when every day they delay (like this contract) it's more $$$ in their pockets. Also, if ALPA went back to ATI management and tried to get an Omni industry standard contract and their answer was (couldn't pull it off)....... I'd be sending a clear message to the NC team with a NO vote. There are so many reasons every pilot should vote NO I can't believe it's this close! Stand up for what's right...... Not just for yourselves but for the entire ACMI industry! That's exactly what the ABX guys did with their 100% legal strike! That was to send a clear message... not just for ABX but for all the ACMI groups. Grow a set and stand up for what is right! Vote NO and go back and get what you're worth!

Im stating what our MEC chairman and CNC told us. I think that was our ALPA attorney at the roadshow as well.

They are adamant this is all we can get.

Like i said

55:45 maybe 60:40

Hopefully the ATI Pilots have some dignity, best time ever for leverage in the industry! ATI management is trying to shove a POS agreement to their pilots, wow, hopefully it will be voted down!

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Originally Posted by OverGMcGee (Post 2548174)

Im stating what our MEC chairman and CNC told us. I think that was our ALPA attorney at the roadshow as well.

They are adamant this is all we can get.

Like i said

55:45 maybe 60:40

Remember ALPA works for you. You don’t work for them. Stand up for what you deserve.

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Originally Posted by OverGMcGee (Post 2548174)

Im stating what our MEC chairman and CNC told us. I think that was our ALPA attorney at the roadshow as well.

They are adamant this is all we can get.

Like i said

55:45 maybe 60:40

Why do you waste your time talking to these ABX jack0ffs? Their idea of “industry standard” is to fly all the overtime they can get when their junior pilots are furloughed and then let them drop off the seniority list! They don’t have your best interests in mind!