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Larry in TN 03-19-2018 10:44 AM

I see that the BUG (monthly guarantee) is increasing from 56 to 60 hours. That has the effect of lowering the hourly rate (for the same annual total) which means that you aren't getting as big of a raise as you thought on all of the extra items that are paid a set number of hours.

BlueSkies88 03-19-2018 04:17 PM

Do not become “DEPLORABLE” and accept “CRUMBS” from ATSG.

#pilotpaymatters
#makepilotpaygreatagain

Riverside 03-19-2018 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Jason605 (Post 2554303)
I think No Land is a K4 ALPA sympathizer. His or Her posts are all pro ALPA. So as long as it’s ALPA approved, this douche is on board.

ATI could vote in $60 an hour 76 capt rates and the No Land cheerleader would be lighting fireworks for the APLO carrier

And to top it off, No Land was a F$&!ing Mesa pilot. Need I say more about his judgement?

Tell us about your credentials.

Jason605 03-19-2018 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 2554405)
Tell us about your credentials.

What do you wanna know?

freighthound 03-20-2018 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by OverGMcGee (Post 2553341)
ATI is not a 1st Tier airline. We cant demand FedEx nor UPS or pay the world just doesn’t function that way. Our MEC and CNC advice is to vote yes. They are currently doing damage control after the above email. Our management may be intellectually challenged but I trust our CNC.

No one makes people stay here. Everyone is free to leave upon ones own will to seek higher pay.

How about at least getting Kalitta and Omni pay. Are you saying ATI pilots are not as worthy as both of those groups? ATSG management certainly doesn't think that about themselves.

BlueSkies88 03-20-2018 10:25 AM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rred-by-amazon

I heard they’re giving ATI pilots 1% discount and a free prime pilot bag tag for the purchase of the A330 type rating at the AIRBUS training center in Miami.

#pilotpaymatters
#makepilotpaygreatagain

Industry Strnd 03-20-2018 11:28 AM

One of the biggest issues could be the business opportunity letter at the end. That's a nose in the tent for company controlled pbs or getting rid of home basing. Imagine amazon wants to grow and the company claims home basing is too expensive now that there is a cvg hub. The letter says the union will achieve a Mou to accommodate. Is that not the dumbest letter ever? If there really is a need for an amendment to the cba the company can approach the union at any time to negotiate terms, this was obviously Ford and Harrison out smarting ALPA. Enjoy it!

Now chime In ALPA....that's not what that means.....ohh really

Industry Strnd 03-20-2018 11:33 AM

Less than 24 hours to save face! Its going to pass so why not change your vote to NO? Atleast you can live the rest of your career saying you tried! Delta and Southwest both voted NO and they got a better deal in very short order. The co threat that the nmb is busy is basically admittig bargaining in bad faith. The nmb doesnt have to attend to get a deal!

ATSG won't turn away growth if yoi say no.....then again ABX is waiting for ATI to cave to keep on financing their retirements and 200 -400k a year!

Riverside 03-21-2018 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Industry Strnd (Post 2554974)
Less than 24 hours to save face! Its going to pass so why not change your vote to NO? Atleast you can live the rest of your career saying you tried! Delta and Southwest both voted NO and they got a better deal in very short order. The co threat that the nmb is busy is basically admittig bargaining in bad faith. The nmb doesnt have to attend to get a deal!

ATSG won't turn away growth if yoi say no.....then again ABX is waiting for ATI to cave to keep on financing their retirements and 200 -400k a year!

You were saying?

gumpscheck 03-21-2018 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 2555515)
You were saying?

What does that means? Are you proud of the vote results?


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