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Old 03-04-2018, 10:33 AM
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I shall be the first to admit I called this wrong.

The 2-4yr capt are foaming at the mouth to get this new contract and the senior, Legacy guys are saying no to the pay-rates. I flew with a legacy guy that was indeed so troubled over the whole scale to the point he was speechless for an hour. ludicrous. They are so few in numbers that their effect will be minimal. This will be a Mesa Vote entirely

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Old 03-04-2018, 01:33 PM
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It makes you wonder if ATSG has been negotiating with ABX pilots at all; perhaps they've been negotiating with ATI pilots the whole time.

Was that ABX payscale proposal ever meant for ABX pilots? I think not.
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Are they even hiring? I've heard they are yet their web site, under jobs available to apply for, has nothing for pilots....
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Originally Posted by midnightshuttle View Post
I shall be the first to admit I called this wrong.

The 2-4yr capt are foaming at the mouth to get this new contract and the senior, Legacy guys are saying no to the pay-rates. I flew with a legacy guy that was indeed so troubled over the whole scale to the point he was speechless for an hour. ludicrous. They are so few in numbers that their effect will be minimal. This will be a Mesa Vote entirely

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They're gonna have to add into their thought process if they still want to be the lowest paid or not. Omni TA is out and about and the numbers are well over what ATI is looking at. OMNI! A charter company with way less money than ATSG.
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Old 03-04-2018, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by midnightshuttle View Post
I shall be the first to admit I called this wrong.

The 2-4yr capt are foaming at the mouth to get this new contract and the senior, Legacy guys are saying no to the pay-rates. I flew with a legacy guy that was indeed so troubled over the whole scale to the point he was speechless for an hour. ludicrous. They are so few in numbers that their effect will be minimal. This will be a Mesa Vote entirely

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Well that sounds like a NO vote. Especially if those two guys think it's good. Just a senior ATI guys opinion.
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Old 03-05-2018, 03:19 AM
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Omni TA is out and about and the numbers are well over what ATI is looking at. OMNI! A charter company with way less money than ATSG.
I just saw the Omni numbers!

The mantra of Kalitta+ shall now be retired to the history books. It’s Omni+ now.
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Old 03-05-2018, 04:44 AM
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I just saw the Omni numbers!

The mantra of Kalitta+ shall now be retired to the history books. It’s Omni+ now.
Aren’t the Omni numbers just K4 starting at DOS+1 with a final 5% tacked on at DOS+3?

On an unrelated subject. Does anyone else feel like we should have a new thread about the ATI contract. I feel like the 4 we have just aren’t cutting it. We could call it:
So much for the ATI payscale numbers release leaked 5.0
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Old 03-05-2018, 06:29 AM
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ATI reached a tentative agreement over 31 days ago and and we still haven't been able to see it yet. Maybe they're looking at the new OMNI numbers that were just released and they're scrambling to bring up our pay to OMNI or better before they release it to vote. Yea, I've decided that's the reason for this delay.
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Omni Teamsters package is bigger than alpa ati's package!!!!
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:05 AM
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In any event, it will take a lot of convincing for a yes vote for ATI's TA unless the proposed TA has similar numbers. The bar is moving higher (as it should be ) and Omni's new TA is just one of several examples of where the bar or par is presently at and what acceptable going forward .....especially in today's financial environment of record profitability for the companies.
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