Careful now boys....pick on ‘em too much and they’ll want a safe space again. :p

You guys are a complete embarrassment...do yourself a favor, if you’re in CVG and see an Atlas, Southern, Kallita or ABX pilot get on the bus....wait for the next one.

I’m considering a move to a supplemental carrier instead of a regional. As I look at all the different operators none of them look all that great. So what exactly makes the ATI contract worse than any of the others? I know a guy at ATI and he said it’s a better contract than Kilatta, with better work rules. So educate me, why all the heartburn?

Guess your friend is a "yes voter"

You're friend is either a liar or smoking crack.


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Apparently like 70% voted yes, so if he did he isn’t an outlier.

I’ve never been Union, just trying to learn here.

And a moron. ATI works 13 more days a year for 5 % less money. Commercial travel is worse. Vacation can be on days off just to name a few.

Do yourself a favor LRS and don't go to ATI unless you want that crap stain on your resume, because that will be an issue during an interview by your peers if you have any intentions of going to a major.


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Yep. They have been and will continue to be a bottom feeder. JH and JV are laughing all the way to the bank knowing they have sucked this group in for at least 6-8 years under this crappy contract.

Every cargo carrier thread you read on APC is filled with angry pilots saying don’t come here you don’t want this place on your resume etc. ATI sucks, ABX sucks, god forbid you go to Atlas. Looks like I’ll get out the old dart board. :rolleyes: