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motorclutch 03-22-2018 08:18 AM

Old news. This was right after the strike and ATI crossed picket lines.

l8fr82hub 03-22-2018 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by motorclutch (Post 2556406)
Old news. This was right after the strike and ATI crossed picket lines.

No, I’m referring to all the posts in the past few weeks

boiler 03-22-2018 08:27 AM

Ati ta passed
 

Originally Posted by l8fr82hub (Post 2556398)
I'm not responding to OverG- that guys posts are so stupid they're not worth reading. I was replying to motorclutch implying that jumpseats would be hard for us to get. You guys tried this crap with the jumpseats before. How'd it work out for you? We're home based and only use jumpseats when its more convenient than our commercial travel. You guys need our jumpseats. If you want to go down that road its fine with me. I never jumpseat on any other airline anyway.



Yes, OverG’s posts are incredibly stupid. MC was saying that OverG’s attitude will make jumpseats hard to come by. That’s not even a jumpseat war...it’s not letting *******s on our planes who are coming into our cockpits for no other reason than to pick a fight. I am guessing OverG is not representative of your entire group in that regard, but you guys should work to keep a leash on him and anyone else like him before they blow the jumpseat for you all. I’m happy to have you guys ride on my flights, but I expect to be respected.


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freighthound 03-22-2018 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by l8fr82hub (Post 2556398)
I'm not responding to OverG- that guys posts are so stupid they're not worth reading. I was replying to motorclutch implying that jumpseats would be hard for us to get. You guys tried this crap with the jumpseats before. How'd it work out for you? We're home based and only use jumpseats when its more convenient than our commercial travel. You guys need our jumpseats. If you want to go down that road its fine with me. I never jumpseat on any other airline anyway.

I think you have a misunderstanding here. I don't know what you mean by "you guys", but let me assure you that McGee and now yourself, are declaring war a on all Amazon/DHL ACMI carriers, which is ABX, Atlas, Southern and your new brothern Kalitta. Don't mistake this as only an ATI/ABX issue. Like I said a JS war is rarely if ever in anyone's best intertest. There is a healing process that will have to be worked through after this major setback that has been heaped on the momentum that Kalitta and Omn have created. The first step in the process is an understanding of what one's actions has done to others their careers and their families. The actions of each of these pilot groups greatly effects each of the other groups. Not saying how that should affect a groups decision, but they should humbly understand and accept the reactions of all those whose life has been affected by a decision made by one of them.

AQPABC 03-22-2018 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by l8fr82hub (Post 2556404)
Have you read all the threads bashing ATI? We're the ones causing friction? Have you been hitting the 'shine a little early today?

I’ve read all the breads bashing ATI. Rightfully so. Your pilot group’s lack of spine and severe Stockholm syndrome is unsettleing. Way to make the ACMI industry look like a bunch amatures.

motorclutch 03-22-2018 10:34 AM

No actually with my contract, I can afford to drink the good stuff. Not the ATI swill.

727CA 03-22-2018 10:57 AM

As far as I’m concerned, any pilot is welcome on my jumpseat regardless of who they fly for. I’ve flown many commuting ABX/1224 pilots to work and also heading out to do informational picketing. Granted, if you ride on my airplane and start baiting the crew, acting belligerent or interfering with safety/security, then you will deplane or have law enforcement meet the aircraft after landing. I seriously doubt that will happen, as the 1224 jumpseaters I’ve had in the past have been professional and courteous.
1 ˝ years ago ATI had to restrict all 1224 pilots from ATI jumpseats due to some confrontations, but the restriction was lifted after 2 months.
ATI pilots are the ones causing friction? Who’s doing all the public bashing against ATI and namecalling on this site? Who tried to force 1224 down everyone’s throat and even tried to run ATI out of business? There’s been confrontations started by ABX pilots in hotel lobbies and on the shuttles. Who’s harassing ATI first officers at the hub when they’re trying to print paperwork?
Stop generalizing ATI pilots. This is not a great contract. The contract is lacking but not everybody voted in favor. And not everybody crossed that picket line. ATI is being labeled a scab airline because of the actions of not even 2% of the pilots?



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Globemaster2827 03-22-2018 11:43 AM

Not to change the subject but what is the retirement? I'm showing that it's actually a 2.5% match plus a 3.5% B fund. Is that right?

Reactivity 03-22-2018 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Asci (Post 2556110)
In 3 years when that contract becomes amendable there will be a lot more guys looking for that “BMW” money.

In three years when that contract becomes amendable, we'll probably be in a recession. Revenue will be down. You'll end up giving back everything you just got and more because management knows you'll roll over when your CNC says, "It's the best we can do."

AQPABC 03-22-2018 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by 727CA (Post 2556519)
As far as I’m concerned, any pilot is welcome on my jumpseat regardless of who they fly for. I’ve flown many commuting ABX/1224 pilots to work and also heading out to do informational picketing. Granted, if you ride on my airplane and start baiting the crew, acting belligerent or interfering with safety/security, then you will deplane or have law enforcement meet the aircraft after landing. I seriously doubt that will happen, as the 1224 jumpseaters I’ve had in the past have been professional and courteous.
1 ˝ years ago ATI had to restrict all 1224 pilots from ATI jumpseats due to some confrontations, but the restriction was lifted after 2 months.
ATI pilots are the ones causing friction? Who’s doing all the public bashing against ATI and namecalling on this site? Who tried to force 1224 down everyone’s throat and even tried to run ATI out of business? There’s been confrontations started by ABX pilots in hotel lobbies and on the shuttles. Who’s harassing ATI first officers at the hub when they’re trying to print paperwork?
Stop generalizing ATI pilots. This is not a great contract. The contract is lacking but not everybody voted in favor. And not everybody crossed that picket line. ATI is being labeled a scab airline because of the actions of not even 2% of the pilots?



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Yet 70% of you voted this embarrassment in.


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