ATI hiring -signing bonus-
05-02-2018, 03:28 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Left seat bizjet
Posts: 293
Originally Posted by woog315
This has got to be a joke... Peole don’t like ATI because their union leadership is actively undermining the entire ACMI space to get a few more planes and their pilots are a bunch of pushover losers who won’t stand up for themselves. It’s got nothing to do with ‘not being fedex’, it’s what they are doing to an otherwise ok industry - I am not an ACMI hater, I just recognize that ATI’s union is essentially run by management and the pilot group refuses to do anything about it (and in fact encourages it) and it’s bad for everyone... competitors and otherwise. Don’t go to ATI dude- go anywhere else where you can have the respect of your peers and respect for yourself.
ACMI can be a career destination, or a stop along the way. There's people that make a career of flying feeder freight in a caravan, and whether they are military evaluator pilots or high school dropouts it makes no real difference. It doesn't here either. I'm sure it ticks some of you off that your career destination is considered a stepping stone to some people, but it is what it is.
05-02-2018, 06:01 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 58
Originally Posted by LRSRanger
but the point is that there's a lot hate spewed on here about ATI when in fact they are near the top of the ACMI heap now.
I've been there/done that and just talked to a friend about a week ago who's been there for over 20 years. Setting aside the crappy contract (which he was upset about), he has never been more worried for the safety of their operations (one young inexperienced captain almost running out of gas is only one of many incidents). He also told me they are in trouble with the FAA for a lot of shoddy practices, including the recent incident where they were caught by the FAA changing logbook times after the fact to make the trip "legal." I don't know the full extent of whats going on over there but it certainly doesn't sound good or that they are at the "top of the heap."
05-02-2018, 06:17 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Left seat bizjet
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Originally Posted by mpflyboy1
Wow. This really must be a joke or you are either management or don't know what you're talking about.
I've been there/done that and just talked to a friend about a week ago who's been there for over 20 years. Setting aside the crappy contract (which he was upset about), he has never been more worried for the safety of their operations (one young inexperienced captain almost running out of gas is only one of many incidents). He also told me they are in trouble with the FAA for a lot of shoddy practices, including the recent incident where they were caught by the FAA changing logbook times after the fact to make the trip "legal." I don't know the full extent of whats going on over there but it certainly doesn't sound good or that they are at the "top of the heap."
I've been there/done that and just talked to a friend about a week ago who's been there for over 20 years. Setting aside the crappy contract (which he was upset about), he has never been more worried for the safety of their operations (one young inexperienced captain almost running out of gas is only one of many incidents). He also told me they are in trouble with the FAA for a lot of shoddy practices, including the recent incident where they were caught by the FAA changing logbook times after the fact to make the trip "legal." I don't know the full extent of whats going on over there but it certainly doesn't sound good or that they are at the "top of the heap."
05-02-2018, 06:24 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by mpflyboy1
Wow. This really must be a joke or you are either management or don't know what you're talking about.
I've been there/done that and just talked to a friend about a week ago who's been there for over 20 years. Setting aside the crappy contract (which he was upset about), he has never been more worried for the safety of their operations (one young inexperienced captain almost running out of gas is only one of many incidents). He also told me they are in trouble with the FAA for a lot of shoddy practices, including the recent incident where they were caught by the FAA changing logbook times after the fact to make the trip "legal." I don't know the full extent of whats going on over there but it certainly doesn't sound good or that they are at the "top of the heap."
I've been there/done that and just talked to a friend about a week ago who's been there for over 20 years. Setting aside the crappy contract (which he was upset about), he has never been more worried for the safety of their operations (one young inexperienced captain almost running out of gas is only one of many incidents). He also told me they are in trouble with the FAA for a lot of shoddy practices, including the recent incident where they were caught by the FAA changing logbook times after the fact to make the trip "legal." I don't know the full extent of whats going on over there but it certainly doesn't sound good or that they are at the "top of the heap."
05-02-2018, 06:47 AM
#26
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Position: Left seat bizjet
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Originally Posted by motorclutch
Yep you are clueless. JV and management would love to have more of you stellar individuals on the property. Just wondering your views of crossing a picket line? Sounds like perfect SCAB material.
Do me a favor and PM me where you work, and I’ll make sure I never apply there. I can’t imagine flying a rotation with you and not slitting my own wrists by day 9.
05-02-2018, 06:48 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by goinaround
There's a lot of former military evaluator pilots with stellar records and masters degrees running around the ACMI ranks as well. But thanks for advocating turning ACMI into a stepping stone in your career. These management teams surely do appreciate you.
05-02-2018, 06:55 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by LRSRanger
I probably got a little carried away, but the point is that there's a lot hate spewed on here about ATI when in fact they are near the top of the ACMI heap now. They are certainly better than all the regionals. I'll go wherever offers the best life for me and my family, and if ATI calls before Omni or Kalitta, then I won't let the APC crybabies stop me.
ACMI can be a career destination, or a stop along the way. There's people that make a career of flying feeder freight in a caravan, and whether they are military evaluator pilots or high school dropouts it makes no real difference. It doesn't here either. I'm sure it ticks some of you off that your career destination is considered a stepping stone to some people, but it is what it is.
ACMI can be a career destination, or a stop along the way. There's people that make a career of flying feeder freight in a caravan, and whether they are military evaluator pilots or high school dropouts it makes no real difference. It doesn't here either. I'm sure it ticks some of you off that your career destination is considered a stepping stone to some people, but it is what it is.
You’ve got a lot to learn little padawan....
05-02-2018, 06:55 AM
#29
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Posts: 23
Originally Posted by LRSRanger
I don’t work there (yet, hopefully) but I have read most of the new contract, not just the highlights. Granted, I’m no expert at airline contracts, but it doesn’t look bad to me at all. Within 5 years on property you are making over 200 grand, and only working half the month. The one thing lacking is retirement, true, but if you are making 200 grand and can’t be bothered to save anything for your own retirement then that’s to your own discredit. Is it Legacy, no, but you could retire from there a very wealthy person if you took a little personal responsibility. It’s lightyears ahead of a regional, and beats a lot of the other ACMI operators.
I see that someone has already dialed YOU in!
Why don’t you consider taking
“a little personal responsibility” yourself and remember this quote as you work towards becoming a “very wealthy person”:
“It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.”
05-02-2018, 06:59 AM
#30
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Originally Posted by LRSRanger
I'll assume that "stepping stone" isn't a dirty word in this context. Or maybe it is. APC is hard to read in that regard. I'm not as lofty as a military evaluator pilot, but I can tell you stories about being on the ground calling in you guys to save our ass. I spent a few harrowing years kicking doors as an infantryman at the behest of our government, and now the same motivation that guided me to kick in a possibly boobytrapped door with a haj holding a PRK behind it summons me to attack this new career.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't give two squarts of **** if you were a military evaluator pilot, at least if that's what still makes you feel superior to everyone else. If the shoe fits wear it. I tried AROTC, and my eyes didn't let me get a flight slot. Life is what it is. You aren't superior for a second.
I earned my rank.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't give two squarts of **** if you were a military evaluator pilot, at least if that's what still makes you feel superior to everyone else. If the shoe fits wear it. I tried AROTC, and my eyes didn't let me get a flight slot. Life is what it is. You aren't superior for a second.
I earned my rank.
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