Am 20+ years and am on my way out! Heading back to the sand box to fly! There want be a new contract anytime in the future! The company execs New another 51% pay raise!

Anything new? Still the same old abx....

Same old story at ABX, unable to retain pilots... they are quitting in droves and more are about to quit....


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...wherein the term "droves" means maybe two per month, on average, if it's even that many.

Actually if you base it on the simple number of 2/mth over a calendar year. It's about 10% of the active pilot list. Add in a few scattered retirements, a medical leave here and there.....you're probably closer to a 15% change. Not good, not the worst, but with a competitive industry whereby others offer so much more, you begin to feel the pain.

You're forgetting the relative figure. On the scale of 1-10 moral here is in the high zero's as were being threatened and downsized simultaneously. Please, dont show up until we have a contract and some evidence of a future.

Soapy destroyed any future for current ABX pilots. He and his sub-par management team have ruined any prospect for a long term career.
JOE HETE let him do it. Mission complete.

What are you trying to do? Put lipstick on this pig? It’s awful in ABX.

BTW, you will see 11 quit soon.

If you say so. But I won't hold my breath. I remember being told last year that seven were leaving within a month or two for corporate jobs. It never happened. There weren't that many departures in that time period, corporate or otherwise.

You are right. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Abx interview lol do let yourself feel like you have to stoop that low! Regional captain pay is better than abx fo pay!

Chime in management or someone for some unknown reason trying to sugar coat the job!

Do other airlines have to resort to message boards to try and keep or attract pilots?

A buddy of mine interviewed two weeks ago and he said he was told that if they invite you to a sim evaluation, you pretty much have the job. My question is that there are companies who still require a sim ride?

It's true that they won't invite you to the sim eval if they didn't like you in the interview. But given recent experience, I'm not sure it's as useful or predictive as they thought it was. Alaska Airlines may or may not still do the sim eval. A couple of years ago, they were still requiring it for anyone who interviewed with less than 6,000 total time.

UPS still requires a sim ride.

I heard that

Yes there are and it’s probably a good thing. I hope K4 starts using their sim again for interviews. They always used to in the past but they’re so busy hiring and training they can’t give up the time.

Are we still taking about ABX? Yes dim ride on interviews.

Just like Atlas.... you must be pretty "dim" to be there interviewing in the first place.

Exactly!!!!

Both Atlas and ABX are great opportunities for interview practice.

Rarely are people hired at true career destinations without having blown a few interviews before they get their dream job.

Interviews are tricky and you definitely should be out there practicing on less worthy jobs. Like Atlas and ABX.

I hope everyone aces their FDX, UPS or Legacy interview.

Practice, pratice, practice.

FedEx and UPS make you fog a mirror?

Problem at ABX if you are ambulatory when you show up and not on an oxygen bottle you WILL be hired! It's not much of a yardstick...

I did hear that part of the old ABX training personnel are back and in fact going to head the 767 training program. I wouldn't count on extra sims and OE any more.

Yeah pilot shortage gets worse at abx because no longer will it be a 50% type bust could creep up to 85%-100% new hire bust rate if he is in charge!

Again the hyperbole. I checked with the head of Flight Standards. In 2018 we had a grand total of 35 people start training, only 5 failed. That is a lot, but not near the catastrophic rates Mr. Trash claims. All were allowed to resign to avoid a training failure on their record. I agree the rumors of the returning new head of standards may well increase that rate. Time will tell.

ABX nowhere negotiations
 

Sounds like Soaper/Hete continue to stall out negotiations. Latest is that they couldn’t even agree on a NDA when attempting to review costing data. More wasted time as the rest of the Cargo industry is expanding and growing. All Soaper cares about us his bonus not the airline he’s the president of. To him all our jobs mean nothing. Just like when he was at Comair and Southern. To him it’s all bout flipping an airline as long as he gets his payout.

I've been trying to figure out what Soaper is up to these days since he doesn't come to CRM classes anymore. Just ran into a mechanic who said Soaper came to some class of his and spewed his BS about how the pilots are the problem. Divide and conquer. It answered my question though...going to the pilot classes isn't working, so he's been trying to work it with the other labor groups.

Soapy lol ...just wow. I wonder if Amazon sees through his lies?

Every department hates us. Hate is a strong word but he is telling everyone its our fault, so they blame us. Mx, scheduling, dispatch, and ndo’s. I think even HR hates us. Hope not just Amazon can see through the lies.


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Amazon has got to remember their packages getting stranded with ABX with the surprise strike. Part of their brand is the reliability of getting your stuff in certain timeframes. Has amazon added any ABX flying since the strike?

I know ABX periodically threatens to disrupt black friday or peak but don't think anything happened this last time around. Doesn't seem like a path to growth though if they can't fly existing work.

They really haven’t added anything. Thank you for reminding everyone is an ABX interview worth it.

When you mean ABX “can’t fly existing work,” what do you mean? Like the ABX is doing soft strikes or currently and intentionally disrupting service?


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People, please quit believing the rhetorical BS coming from JH’s executive suite in ILN. You asked if Amazon has added any ABX flying after the strike. The contract with Amazon is with ATSG. However ATSG decides to assign the AMZ flights is an internal decision. Amazon could care less who flies them as long as they are flown. JH threatened the ABX EXCO chairman to take planes away if we didn’t take a pay cut. This was during the summer of 2016, before the strike. The EXCO counteroffer a compromise plan with the only stipulation of dividing the fleet evenly between the two airlines, ABX & ATI. JH refused it. In October of that same year, 2016, the whole EXCO offered to drop the “D6 Case” in return for just one more tail number to be assigned to ABX. Again ATSG refused the offer. This lack of flights and/or airplanes at ABX has nothing to do with AMZ. It is an internal decision from ATSG.

The ABX Negotiating Committee has asked Sudsy for the AMZ letter claiming that no more flights be assigned to ABX. Mr. Clean (Sudsy) can’t produce it. That means it is all a big lie. BIGGLIE!!! Like another “business magnate” likes to say.

They love it....cheap labor at 2009 contract prices. He is a hero to them. The freight moves at record on time performance numbers with delays going to maintenance.

Nothing to see here. More labor unrest.

Still no contract in sight despite management saying it's just around the corner.

No projected aircraft delivery.

A contract and airplanes will be just two pieces of the puzzle. This company could use a little more than just that. At this rate every new hire is going to spend an eternity on reserve! And if you are going to do endless reserve, you might as well look at other companies.

Honestly, if i’m so far down the reserve list, why should I even be coming to work? Why don’t we have a long call reserve system? No, You can gamble or sit 3 days in CVG with nothing to do just have them throw a 24/7 after those 3 days. If you have no crashpad, thats 3 days camping at the DHL hub living off pizza from the cafeteria.


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You won’t be able to afford pizza! Might be able to live on noodles though!

Fact!


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Still hiring...