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Old 04-20-2007, 09:06 AM
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Do you essentially know the test questions before you take the written for the 757?
300 question test bank. Exam is 100 questions. Just like the ATPw or FEw, so yes.
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:16 AM
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300 question test bank. Exam is 100 questions. Just like the ATPw or FEw, so yes.
It's pathetic. Everyone in my class got 100%. I know some of those clowns just studied the test questions.
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:18 AM
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It's pathetic. Everyone in my class got 100%. I know some of those clowns just studied the test questions.
Beats the traditional oral exam...not complaints here!
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:36 AM
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Beats the traditional oral exam...not complaints here!

I guess. I mean, this is going to sound crazy because I get sooooo nervous during orals, but I kind of wish we had one. I feel like I didn't learn jack with this method. Also, you have 3 "checks". Even though they are train to proficiency or whatever, I felt super nervous before each one. At least with the old method, you get everything over in one day which means only crapping myself a few days before the one checkride one time. Know what I mean?
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:44 AM
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I guess to each his own. I thought AQP was pretty good. Even though there was no official oral, during the systems portion of training, there was an oral done by the instructor each day. That to me seemed the toughest part of the entire training.
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I guess. I mean, this is going to sound crazy because I get sooooo nervous during orals, but I kind of wish we had one. I feel like I didn't learn jack with this method. Also, you have 3 "checks". Even though they are train to proficiency or whatever, I felt super nervous before each one. At least with the old method, you get everything over in one day which means only crapping myself a few days before the one checkride one time. Know what I mean?
Not really. It's still not a free pass thru the program. I just seems more compartmentalized than the old school way. To me, it's better since you can focus on each phase and it all comes together by your LOE. You could always go the 8 if you want to suffer some more.
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:12 AM
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Are there 300 banked questions for the other aircraft? I like to study test questions for the test.
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:04 PM
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Not really. It's still not a free pass thru the program. I just seems more compartmentalized than the old school way. To me, it's better since you can focus on each phase and it all comes together by your LOE.
I agree 100%. The AQP program is much better than the old school way of trying to learn/do everything at once. By the time I got to the LOE phase, I was very confident with my systems, procedures, and maneuvers knowledge/performance. I was able to concentrate on just flying the aircraft during normal operations, or handle an emergency confidently, without worrying about my V1 cut procedures....it was all second nature by then. The type rating ride was a non-event because of this.

During the systems phase, myself and my sim partner had to basically brief the systems we were covering that day, and answer all kinds of questions about them. It certainly wasn't a cakewalk, and you had to know what you were talking about.....not just pass a stupid 100 question test. By the time you took the knowledge validation test (100 question systems test), it was basically a non-event because of the face to face systems briefings, and the interaction with the FBS (Fixed Base trainer/non motion simulator).
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Old 04-20-2007, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE View Post
I guess to each his own. I thought AQP was pretty good. Even though there was no official oral, during the systems portion of training, there was an oral done by the instructor each day. That to me seemed the toughest part of the entire training.

AGREED ...
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The Mad Dog is old school. CBT films (touch the engine...touch it now), fixed base trainer sessions, and then an oral all in SDF. Then, for my class, out to Long Beach, CA to hang out with the hippies that designed the jet. If I recall, it's 8 sim sessions, a warm-up and then a rating ride or PC for those previously typed. Afterwhich, is a loft where you learn to use the crew bunk and turn sandwich trays into gourmet meals.

I have been through too many ground schools, but this one is actually not bad.

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