Originally Posted by Whalehunter
(Post 2936658)
Maybe the thought of not seeing their family, might be the issue. Being a young parent and being gone 16 days straight.
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Originally Posted by TripleIsolation
(Post 2936660)
No that’s completely understandable, not everyone has a lifestyle conducive to being gone for that long in a row. I’m more talking the people that think it’s a ball-busting 16 days. I fly about the same legs in an entire month sometimes as my other half does on a 4 day.
I will say the flip flop, day to night back to day flying is taking some time and discipline to adjust to. I’m pretty sure I’m not getting 6-8 hours of deep sleep during those schedule changes. I am a husband and father, like many pilots in ACMI land. The days away at a time aren’t easy, but it’s not as bad as you think it would be. The best feeling is getting home knowing you have almost two weeks before you even need to pack your bags again. By day 10 or 11 at home, your spouse will wonder when you’re leaving again :) |
Originally Posted by Fixnem2Flyinem
(Post 2936735)
That is the truth. A year ago I was flying 20-24 leg, 4 day trips. This month I will fly 16 legs in 14 flying days.
I will say the flip flop, day to night back to day flying is taking some time and discipline to adjust to. I’m pretty sure I’m not getting 6-8 hours of deep sleep during those schedule changes. I am a husband and father, like many pilots in ACMI land. The days away at a time aren’t easy, but it’s not as bad as you think it would be. The best feeling is getting home knowing you have almost two weeks before you even need to pack your bags again. By day 10 or 11 at home, your spouse will wonder when you’re leaving again :) It’s not for everyone for sure! |
Originally Posted by Kingairguy08
(Post 2936639)
How about you start your own ABX thread and continue crying over there?
Dont want to do that? Didnt think so.... Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk |
Upgrade times?
Does ATI have jumpseating agreements with most major airline? |
Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets
(Post 2932526)
For the most part, our schedules are built 16 on 12 off. We do have a few 7 on 7 off, not many though. We bid two 28 day cycles at a time. Each 28 day cycle has a minimum of 12 days off of which five of those days are IDO “untouchable” days off. Which means, if they contact you, they can ask you to work but you can decline no harm no foul.
The other days off, if you pick up the phone, then they can Junior Man you if they so choose. This is, more or less, standard throughout the industry. If you’re interested in ATI, the online app window opened today and closes on Dec 11’th. Hope this helps, FAJ Standard through the industry???? No, standard through the industry is when you are on your days off, you are off. Scheduling can call, beg, and plead, but accepting the trip is completely your prerogative. This for every day off, not just five. I know I’m critical of ATIs contract, but I promise I’m not trying to be a hater here: junior manning on days off is NOT industry standard. I don’t know of any other airlines (even regionals) that still do that. |
Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
(Post 2937117)
Standard through the industry????
No, standard through the industry is when you are on your days off, you are off. Scheduling can call, beg, and plead, but accepting the trip is completely your prerogative. This for every day off, not just five. I know I’m critical of ATIs contract, but I promise I’m not trying to be a hater here: junior manning on days off is NOT industry standard. I don’t know of any other airlines (even regionals) that still do that. |
Originally Posted by MovinFreight
(Post 2937233)
You can’t get junior manned if you don’t answer the phone... Just don’t answer phone calls from random numbers on your days off.
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How much actual flying are ATI guys getting in a month, hour wise ?
I assume when you go to work for the 16 day block, you are not sitting around, you are flying, correct. |
Originally Posted by MovinFreight
(Post 2937233)
You can’t get junior manned if you don’t answer the phone... Just don’t answer phone calls from random numbers on your days off.
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