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Old 08-02-2019, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bungalow View Post
I admired the optimism as well. Now for some realism, ABX days are numbered
Better put your money where your mouth is, get out and find another job.

Pretty much what’ve been told to prospective new hires.
Not so much....I am flying with a new hire now.
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Old 08-02-2019, 03:38 PM
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Not so much....I am flying with a new hire now.
Hum...Brave soul. Disregard the sage guidance offered in this forum at your own peril.
You must advice him to quit immediately, before the damage to his career becomes irreversible.
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Old 08-02-2019, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bungalow View Post
Now for some realism, ABX days are numbered
Better put your money where your mouth is, get out and find another job.
Do you know how long I've been hearing that now? Because I'm really curious what the number is at this point. I've heard a couple of estimates in my time at ABX. We're well beyond all of them.

But please, don't let me discourage you from finding the exit.

This is not to say that I don't have my own applications floating around out there, because there are better opportunities available if you can get the right person's attention. But I'm also not as pessimistic as some of the local denizens.
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bungalow View Post
Hum...Brave soul. Disregard the sage guidance offered in this forum at your own peril.
You must advice him to quit immediately, before the damage to his career becomes irreversible.
Lol...that's funny.
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Old 08-06-2019, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkThyme View Post
21Air is what I heard.
21Air flew both of its aircraft, N999YV and N881YV, to BQK two weeks ago, where it seemed plausible that maybe they were gonna get a little badly-needed work done at Stambaugh, in anticipation of this new rumoured contract, stolen from ABX.

However, it now appears that N999YV was just sold to Cargojet by its owner, who leases it to 21Air. Could it soldier on with 21Air for a little while before going to Cargojet, and thus the sale doesn't refute the rumour? Sure. And Cargojet only confirmed the acquisition of the one aircraft, so maybe 21Air could try to serve Aeromex with a single aircraft.

But the fact that Stambaugh used to work on Cargojet's 727s and 757s makes me wonder whether both 21Air 767-200s will end up in Canada in the not-too-distant future. 21Air could do the contract with an aircraft leased from someone else, I guess, but perhaps the contract was lost to a different bottom-feeder, or the plan fell through?
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:44 PM
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21Air flew both of its aircraft, N999YV and N881YV, to BQK two weeks ago, where it seemed plausible that maybe they were gonna get a little badly-needed work done at Stambaugh, in anticipation of this new rumoured contract, stolen from ABX.

However, it now appears that N999YV was just sold to Cargojet by its owner, who leases it to 21Air. Could it soldier on with 21Air for a little while before going to Cargojet, and thus the sale doesn't refute the rumour? Sure. And Cargojet only confirmed the acquisition of the one aircraft, so maybe 21Air could try to serve Aeromex with a single aircraft.

But the fact that Stambaugh used to work on Cargojet's 727s and 757s makes me wonder whether both 21Air 767-200s will end up in Canada in the not-too-distant future. 21Air could do the contract with an aircraft leased from someone else, I guess, but perhaps the contract was lost to a different bottom-feeder, or the plan fell through?
Hete will lease them aircraft to do the ex ABX flying...that's been the pattern.
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Old 08-06-2019, 06:51 PM
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Hete will lease them aircraft to do the ex ABX flying...that's been the pattern.
I know that was just intended to be a snark at Hete, but actually Hete doesn't have many 767-200s to lease out these days, since ABX is getting more Amazon flying than it can realistically do reliably with the 6 dry-leased aircraft.

Fortunately, Hete isn't the only game in town when it comes to leasing 767 cargo aircraft.

I know many of you guys hate Amazon and everything, but it's some steady business that isn't going anywhere if it gets done reliably, and ABX is handling that ILN work like the Express carrier it used to be.

I was actually thinking that maybe Cargojet was going to take the Aeromex contract from ABX like it did that DHL route from CVG to South America.
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Old 08-06-2019, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wjcandee View Post
I know that was just intended to be a snark at Hete, but actually Hete doesn't have many 767-200s to lease out these days, since ABX is getting more Amazon flying than it can realistically do reliably with the 6 dry-leased aircraft.

Fortunately, Hete isn't the only game in town when it comes to leasing 767 cargo aircraft.

I know many of you guys hate Amazon and everything, but it's some steady business that isn't going anywhere if it gets done reliably, and ABX is handling that ILN work like the Express carrier it used to be.

I was actually thinking that maybe Cargojet was going to take the Aeromex contract from ABX like it did that DHL route from CVG to South America.
Atlas will file bankruptcy soon and Bezos will buy all their aircraft and not need ABX or ATI.
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:36 PM
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Atlas will file bankruptcy soon and Bezos will buy all their aircraft and not need ABX or ATI.
😀 Like Bezos has the slightest idea about who Amazon Air contracts with.

I'm sure Dave Clark wants to be the first Amazon division head to have unionized employees. Contracting with independent airlines is worth it to him if only not to have to deal directly with moody, pesky pilots.
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Old 08-07-2019, 04:12 AM
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😀 Like Bezos has the slightest idea about who Amazon Air contracts with.

I'm sure Dave Clark wants to be the first Amazon division head to have unionized employees. Contracting with independent airlines is worth it to him if only not to have to deal directly with moody, pesky pilots.
Doesn't matter who has the slightest idea....the outcome will be the same. All choreographed to coincide with the new hub opening.
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