The Dominican

There is definitely the opportunity to make some coin if you want to work. I fail to see anything wrong with that.

Twin Wasp

I’ve know Captains at American who thought Supplemental ops are conducted under part 135.

JohnBurke

I spoke with a captain at a supplemental not long ago who thought that his operation (large widebody international) was doing Part 135. This was a captain at that operation. I asked why he thought that, and he said he'd been told so, in ground school. He showed me a slide from a powerpoint he'd had in his initial or upgrade, and it depicted several regulations, including 135. It was illustrative, probably a poor choice, but meant to show that various types of certificates and regulations applied to various operations. His background, military, did not include exposure to 135, ever; accordingly, he simply took what he saw at face value. He'd been told that sometimes his company operated under Part 91, sometimes under Part 121. He figured there must be some times that it operated under Part 135, too, but he didn't know any more than that.

Then again, he also thought that "pipe clamps" were a means of fixing hydraulic leaks on aircraft, and had a litany of ideas with no bearing in reality. So, there's that.

dera

18 at Atlas.
20 if flying ULR or hazardous area flying, both come with premium pay.

Both can be extended by 2 hours as per usual.
30 hours of duty is insanity.

RyeMex

To add onto this, I’m pretty sure the guys at K4 have a 24 hour duty day.

dera

And just to clarify because 117 guys don't necessarily know, this is with crew of 4 obviously. 2 and 3 men crews have shorter duty days.
A 18 hour duty day usually means 6-7 hours in the bunk.

The Dominican

That's the max. But I don't think that the folks at N8 are getting anything over 22, and of course that they take their required acclimation rest. But they do a LOT of DH for sure. The contract at Atlas is very good (congratulations on achieving it) One thing about N8 is that although it is a very small outfit, people seem happy there overall.

"I’ve know Captains at American who thought Supplemental ops are conducted under part 135"

I found it funny when you folks started making fun about his 135 comments. I've found that most pilots are clueless about regulatory compliance and requirements. In the past couple of years during the pandemic, I found myself going over the written regs with the inspectors even. Unless you've been a 119 for a company or have been envolved in certification processes, most of your regulations knowledge come from knowing OPS Specs. Most people don't even know that 8900 exists.

zerozero

And to add onto this! That was the entire reason they decertified IBT and went to ALPA.

How did that work out?

maxjet

Wow! That is revisionist history at its best.

Twin Wasp

Does National follow part 117? It's optional for cargo operators.