Amazon is getting 15 more 737s
06-30-2019, 05:32 AM
#91
VHR-very happily retired
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Retired
Posts: 1,409
Originally Posted by 6Badger9
A carrier that pays me what I’m worth. Even at 300% for the whole month, you’re still below industry standard on a 737. Welcome to ACMI. Enjoy your commute to CVG.
Why can’t you just be happy for a group of pilots who just got a shot to fly a larger aircraft. They have a union and they can negotiate their own pay rates. None of your business what they make.
I know, “they are bringing down the industry”. BS. Did Mesa, or any other carrier ultimately effect Delta etc pay rates? No. Did Southern taking the 737’s originally, ultimately effect FedEx or even Kalitta pay rates? No. All hype put out by unions to take the pressure off of them for inadequate representation.
Pilots who wave this bringing down the industry flag are just pawns. The reality is this. Southern was awarded the 73’s a few years ago. 1224 loves to blame them for “Bringing down the industry”. Didn’t seem to effect Kalitta, Omni, or ATI negotiations.
BTW. Southern cannot staff the aircraft because nobody wants to work for those wages. The market has spoken and pilots have chosen with their feet.
Company responds by giving the aircraft to a commuter. Gamesmanship. Why do pilots insist on blaming each other for this? Notice nobody has lost their job over this.
This is the best pilot environment I have seen in my career. If you cannot move to greener pastures in this environment then that is your fault. You either are too stubborn to play the game required to move on or because you suck as a pilot you have a record that keeps you from moving on. Want to know the great thing about all of this? You still make more than the average person in the US and you don’t have cancer, or MS or some other disease. Still not happy? Maybe it is you not the industry you work in.
06-30-2019, 10:28 AM
#92
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 698
Originally Posted by maxjet
What are you worth? Please tell us how much you make per hour, what your guarantee is, and how much you made last year. Tell us how superior you are to the lowly commuter pilots, most of whom could out fly you any day because they are required to fly everyday.
Why can’t you just be happy for a group of pilots who just got a shot to fly a larger aircraft. They have a union and they can negotiate their own pay rates. None of your business what they make.
I know, “they are bringing down the industry”. BS. Did Mesa, or any other carrier ultimately effect Delta etc pay rates? No. Did Southern taking the 737’s originally, ultimately effect FedEx or even Kalitta pay rates? No. All hype put out by unions to take the pressure off of them for inadequate representation.
Pilots who wave this bringing down the industry flag are just pawns. The reality is this. Southern was awarded the 73’s a few years ago. 1224 loves to blame them for “Bringing down the industry”. Didn’t seem to effect Kalitta, Omni, or ATI negotiations.
BTW. Southern cannot staff the aircraft because nobody wants to work for those wages. The market has spoken and pilots have chosen with their feet.
Company responds by giving the aircraft to a commuter. Gamesmanship. Why do pilots insist on blaming each other for this? Notice nobody has lost their job over this.
This is the best pilot environment I have seen in my career. If you cannot move to greener pastures in this environment then that is your fault. You either are too stubborn to play the game required to move on or because you suck as a pilot you have a record that keeps you from moving on. Want to know the great thing about all of this? You still make more than the average person in the US and you don’t have cancer, or MS or some other disease. Still not happy? Maybe it is you not the industry you work in.
Why can’t you just be happy for a group of pilots who just got a shot to fly a larger aircraft. They have a union and they can negotiate their own pay rates. None of your business what they make.
I know, “they are bringing down the industry”. BS. Did Mesa, or any other carrier ultimately effect Delta etc pay rates? No. Did Southern taking the 737’s originally, ultimately effect FedEx or even Kalitta pay rates? No. All hype put out by unions to take the pressure off of them for inadequate representation.
Pilots who wave this bringing down the industry flag are just pawns. The reality is this. Southern was awarded the 73’s a few years ago. 1224 loves to blame them for “Bringing down the industry”. Didn’t seem to effect Kalitta, Omni, or ATI negotiations.
BTW. Southern cannot staff the aircraft because nobody wants to work for those wages. The market has spoken and pilots have chosen with their feet.
Company responds by giving the aircraft to a commuter. Gamesmanship. Why do pilots insist on blaming each other for this? Notice nobody has lost their job over this.
This is the best pilot environment I have seen in my career. If you cannot move to greener pastures in this environment then that is your fault. You either are too stubborn to play the game required to move on or because you suck as a pilot you have a record that keeps you from moving on. Want to know the great thing about all of this? You still make more than the average person in the US and you don’t have cancer, or MS or some other disease. Still not happy? Maybe it is you not the industry you work in.
No crews to fly the 3 737’s we have. Trust the process
06-30-2019, 10:49 AM
#93
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 737
Originally Posted by maxjet
What are you worth? Please tell us how much you make per hour, what your guarantee is, and how much you made last year. Tell us how superior you are to the lowly commuter pilots, most of whom could out fly you any day because they are required to fly everyday.
Why can’t you just be happy for a group of pilots who just got a shot to fly a larger aircraft. They have a union and they can negotiate their own pay rates. None of your business what they make.
I know, “they are bringing down the industry”. BS. Did Mesa, or any other carrier ultimately effect Delta etc pay rates? No. Did Southern taking the 737’s originally, ultimately effect FedEx or even Kalitta pay rates? No. All hype put out by unions to take the pressure off of them for inadequate representation.
Pilots who wave this bringing down the industry flag are just pawns. The reality is this. Southern was awarded the 73’s a few years ago. 1224 loves to blame them for “Bringing down the industry”. Didn’t seem to effect Kalitta, Omni, or ATI negotiations.
BTW. Southern cannot staff the aircraft because nobody wants to work for those wages. The market has spoken and pilots have chosen with their feet.
Company responds by giving the aircraft to a commuter. Gamesmanship. Why do pilots insist on blaming each other for this? Notice nobody has lost their job over this.
This is the best pilot environment I have seen in my career. If you cannot move to greener pastures in this environment then that is your fault. You either are too stubborn to play the game required to move on or because you suck as a pilot you have a record that keeps you from moving on. Want to know the great thing about all of this? You still make more than the average person in the US and you don’t have cancer, or MS or some other disease. Still not happy? Maybe it is you not the industry you work in.
Why can’t you just be happy for a group of pilots who just got a shot to fly a larger aircraft. They have a union and they can negotiate their own pay rates. None of your business what they make.
I know, “they are bringing down the industry”. BS. Did Mesa, or any other carrier ultimately effect Delta etc pay rates? No. Did Southern taking the 737’s originally, ultimately effect FedEx or even Kalitta pay rates? No. All hype put out by unions to take the pressure off of them for inadequate representation.
Pilots who wave this bringing down the industry flag are just pawns. The reality is this. Southern was awarded the 73’s a few years ago. 1224 loves to blame them for “Bringing down the industry”. Didn’t seem to effect Kalitta, Omni, or ATI negotiations.
BTW. Southern cannot staff the aircraft because nobody wants to work for those wages. The market has spoken and pilots have chosen with their feet.
Company responds by giving the aircraft to a commuter. Gamesmanship. Why do pilots insist on blaming each other for this? Notice nobody has lost their job over this.
This is the best pilot environment I have seen in my career. If you cannot move to greener pastures in this environment then that is your fault. You either are too stubborn to play the game required to move on or because you suck as a pilot you have a record that keeps you from moving on. Want to know the great thing about all of this? You still make more than the average person in the US and you don’t have cancer, or MS or some other disease. Still not happy? Maybe it is you not the industry you work in.
06-30-2019, 04:04 PM
#94
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,469
Originally Posted by boeingdvr
The -800’s are Etops for future Hawaii flying. I don’t see Mesa getting an Etops program anytime soon. Of course anything is possible - given the cost, the training and up keep of such program, it goes against what Mesa is about
07-01-2019, 12:38 AM
#96
VHR-very happily retired
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Retired
Posts: 1,409
Originally Posted by 4runner
Yeah. You both are “woke”. Solid peeps you two. Stupid unions.
07-01-2019, 10:13 PM
#100
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: Boeing CA
Posts: 66
Originally Posted by 121guy
This strikes me as an experiment on the part of DHL. All you have to do is look at JO’s miserable track record to know this will likely end in lawsuits.
He has done nothing but leave a scorched earth in his path every where he goes.
He is literally a blunt tool who gets used by the more powerful airlines. He is their dog.
Who is yanking JOs chain this time? I imagine Bezos or some other dark lord.
Hell awaits for him and his kind.
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