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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 161661)

I think the difference is that they are "forced" to be a SO due to the regs, but a regulatory change to allow front seats up to age 65 will not automatically "force" an over 60 SO out of his seat. He can legally still be able to sit sideways until he can bid out of that seat! ;)

S,

It will not force the guy up front but he was "forced" to the back seat due to regs. I'm betting they are also making the case for going back to the front without a bid.

Don't want them coming back and messing up my vacation and Christmas bids! :)

Past...

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Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 161666)

You lose the bet!;)

blah blah blah......

In any case I see management sitting back and watching FDX ALPA falling apart from within with a certain sense of amusement.:(

No, I don't think so F---hunter. There are still 4,800+ of us, and a small handful of you and some others affected by this situation. And most of them in your age group are handling this with some class, and not jumping up and down singing "It's ALL about ME!!"

I don't think Webb & the rest are fools. They, like us and many others, are in a poker game right now, and in the end cooler heads will prevail. Eventually, yes, change will happen. But I would'nt hold my breath expecting a class date in 30 days when you have 4 government bureaucracies and a President who have to approve this. City hall doesn't open their mail that fast.

Your statement above makes it obvious that you could care less about anybody but yourself.

You've made your point. Several times. Take a break.

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Originally Posted by cma2407 (Post 161703)

No, I don't think so F---hunter.

Your statement above makes it obvious that you could care less about anybody but yourself.

You've made your point. Several times. Take a break.

And there it is ... someone else that realizes that FoxHunter (aka George) is only interested in FoxHunter.

For years he's complained about ALPA while NEVER volunteering to work at ALPA, now he expects ALPA to do the "right thing" by him.
Now that's just plain hilarious ... :D :D

Regards,

Mark

(If I recall correctly, he even quit ALPA for a while? Yep, he's one of those guys.)

George....start studying...

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Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 161726)

George....start studying...

I might have to down bid to 727 Cap just to see that......:)

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Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 161726)

George....start studying...

That's a -100 panel. They'll be all gone by the time he has to go to school.:D

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Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 161719)

(If I recall correctly, he even quit ALPA for a while? Yep, he's one of those guys.)

He's quit more than once.

"Look at all them muthaf@ckin' clocks...."

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Originally Posted by ClutchCargo (Post 161748)

That's a -100 panel. They'll be all gone by the time he has to go to school.:D

Although I was looking forward to finally getting my FAA Flight Engineer certificate it looks like that is no longer in the cards. In any case the training department will be busy enough putting those age 60+ S/Os back in the Captain seat. :D :p

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Originally Posted by AerisArmis (Post 161487)

If the company wants to avoid paying passover pay to the over 60 crowd, just have a big bid 2 weeks prior to the effective date of the change. Say for instance, with a two year training cycle. Even if they are allowed to bid back, they will have to wait for a vacancy bid. Also, if there is an excess bid soon, that will mean that every DC-10 S/O is over 60 and letting all of them come limping back all at once would pretty much ground that dwindling fleet. Something that ain't goonna happen in a short time.

Rumor is that the Company HAS at least discussed that.