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XUSair 05-08-2007 10:47 AM

I propose an LOA to the contract and let the majority of the membership rule. I'm sick of ALPAs senior driven policies. At my last airline, I had furlough protection until the MEC feed me to the wolfs to protect senior pay. What did retiree health care cost us in this contract? Just throw a bone to the bottom dues paying members. The good of the few outweigh the good of the many in our union. It is past time for the majority to take control of our union. Call your reps, get involved, and "Lets take it back".

CaptainMark 05-08-2007 10:48 AM

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Busboy 05-08-2007 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 162161)
They don't exercise those rights because the "Regulated Age is 60", the "Regulated Age" will soon be 65 and then there is no longer any restriction.

No kidding?

You're leaving out that it will be the "regulated age" for those under the age of 60 at the date of implementaion, or whatever the effective date will be called.

It's not a contractual limitation. It's a regulatory limitation. It really has nothing to do with the contract, or protecting anyone's seniority rights.

130JDrvr 05-08-2007 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by XUSair (Post 162167)
I propose an LOA to the contract and let the majority of the membership rule. I'm sick of ALPAs senior driven policies. At my last airline, I had furlough protection until the MEC feed me to the wolfs to protect senior pay. What did retiree health care cost us in this contract? Just throw a bone to the bottom dues paying members. The good of the few outweigh the good of the many in our union. It is past time for the majority to take control of our union. Call your reps, get involved, and "Lets take it back".

So what are you going to say when your senior? B!tch about what a good deal the junior guys have?

I have no issues with what we did with retiree health care. We'll all benefit from that in the future.

Past...

XUSair 05-08-2007 11:16 AM

As you work until 65,we'll see how much.

FoxHunter 05-08-2007 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 162169)
No kidding?

You're leaving out that is will be the "regulated age" for those under the age of 60 at the date of implementaion, or whatever the effective date will be called.

It's not a contractual limitation. It's a regulatory limitation. It really has nothing to do with the contract, or protecting anyone's seniority rights.

Looks like the Senators that wrote the Bill don't see it that way. In any case it is now part of the FAA Reauthorization Bill. The FAA runs out of funds on September 30, 2007 if not passed.


http://www.age60rule.com/docs/2007%2...o%20Blakey.pdf

SNAFU 05-08-2007 12:05 PM

That is nothing that another continuing resolution won't solve.

Putz.

Bitme 05-08-2007 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by XUSair (Post 162167)
I propose an LOA to the contract and let the majority of the membership rule. I'm sick of ALPAs senior driven policies. At my last airline, I had furlough protection until the MEC feed me to the wolfs to protect senior pay. What did retiree health care cost us in this contract? Just throw a bone to the bottom dues paying members. The good of the few outweigh the good of the many in our union. It is past time for the majority to take control of our union. Call your reps, get involved, and "Lets take it back".

Not to pi$$ you off too much, but our representative system at fdx, which by the way was changed at ALPA level when we remerged is seniority based; so I ask where are the bottom half of the block reps in this equation. If in fact you have a ***** it's with them and until they explain their position:eek:

dckozak 05-08-2007 12:20 PM

Age 60 and early retirement
 
Maybe this has been suggested somewhere in the last 200+ posts (can't be bothered to go threw them all :rolleyes: ) What will happen to the early out provisions?? will they move forward 5 years, and if so when? If the retirement age ups to 65 and overnight so does the early retirement penalty than you won't have to worry about Foxhunter or anyone else (in the near term) hanging on for 5 years. Unless FedEx allows normal retirement for all that want to at 60, I think its only fair that if the retirement age increases and if the early retirement penalties increases correspondingly, than they should do so at the same time with no graduated provisions. ;)
If the union leadership is listening, please don't attempt to negotiate any graduated provisions for early retirement. If the company can and will increase the age penalties will apply to an early out, they should do so without prejudice. If anyone wants to get out between 60+ to 65 they should take the same hit we all will.

FoxHunter 05-08-2007 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by dckozak (Post 162231)
Maybe this has been suggested somewhere in the last 200+ posts (can't be bothered to go threw them all :rolleyes: ) What will happen to the early out provisions?? will they move forward 5 years, and if so when? If the retirement age ups to 65 and overnight so does the early retirement penalty than you won't have to worry about Foxhunter or anyone else (in the near term) hanging on for 5 years. Unless FedEx allows normal retirement for all that want to at 60, I think its only fair that if the retirement age increases and if the early retirement penalties increases correspondingly, than they should do so at the same time with no graduated provisions. ;)
If the union leadership is listening, please don't attempt to negotiate any graduated provisions for early retirement. If the company can and will increase the age penalties will apply to an early out, they should do so without prejudice. If anyone wants to get out between 60+ to 65 they should take the same hit we all will.

Don, according to the MEC and the NC age 60 remains the normal retirement age. They both said that could only change with a new contract.


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