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AerisArmis 05-09-2007 06:27 AM

The Master seniority list is revised every July 1st. I think the Big Dick Cotton turned 60 last Aug.

AerisArmis 05-09-2007 06:32 AM

Also, I had a friend turn 60 last Jan. The co. told him he could go on personal Leave of Absence for up to 90 days. Per section 13 of the contract, you can apply for additional 90 day extentions for up to 24 months. During this period, you get no pay and no pension and your longevity stops after 60 days. Let's see, do we know anybody dumb enough to do this just so he can fly till he dies? I mean, other than George?

FoxHunter 05-09-2007 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by AerisArmis (Post 162694)
Also, I had a friend turn 60 last Jan. The co. told him he could go on personal Leave of Absence for up to 90 days. Per section 13 of the contract, you can apply for additional 90 day extentions for up to 24 months. During this period, you get no pay and no pension and your longevity stops after 60 days. Let's see, do we know anybody dumb enough to do this just so he can fly till he dies? I mean, other than George?

Jeez!! No pilot turning age 60 could possibly consider doing that. How would it be possible for him to pay his four ex-wives, pay back the money he borrowed for that Nigerian internet scam, for the damage to his P51 he ran off the runway with no hull insurance, the cost to transport his new pregnant wife, and her family from Subic to Los Angeles? You guys knw for a fact that all pilots that want to continue working are broke!!:rolleyes: You guys also know that the company has not intention of training them back in the Captain position. With that being true a LOA would probably be a foolish move.:D ;)

FDX28 05-09-2007 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by FreightDawgyDog (Post 162567)
This is the second major issue where you have said the MEC knows better than the membership about what is right and you will not give them a say. Can we expect this troubling trend to continue?

Keep writing no matter what is said tonight!!


ALPA BY-LAWS ARTICLE III, SECTION 2F.



F. RECALL OF LOCAL COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE OR OFFICER

At a Local Council meeting, which has been called to consider, among other things, a recall, such Local Council, by a majority vote of the Active members in good standing of that council then present, and valid proxies, may request the Vice President-Administration/Secretary to initiate and circulate a ballot among the Active members of such Local Council for the removal of a Local Council Status Representative or Officer, said ballot to be conducted under Association Voting Procedures. Such ballots shall be validated and tallied under the supervision of the Election and Ballot Certification Board who shall certify the results and notify the Vice President-Administration/Secretary. The Vice President-Administration/Secretary shall promptly mail a copy of the certification of results to the members of the Local Council.

FDX28 05-09-2007 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 162715)
You guys also know that the company has not intention of training them back in the Captain position so ff that is true it would probably be a foolish move.

huh?? I thought at first you were speaking in Shakespearian English...

FoxHunter 05-09-2007 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by FDX28 (Post 162719)

ALPA BY-LAWS ARTICLE III, SECTION 2F.



F. RECALL OF LOCAL COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE OR OFFICER

At a Local Council meeting, which has been called to consider, among other things, a recall, such Local Council, by a majority vote of the Active members in good standing of that council then present, and valid proxies, may request the Vice President-Administration/Secretary to initiate and circulate a ballot among the Active members of such Local Council for the removal of a Local Council Status Representative or Officer, said ballot to be conducted under Association Voting Procedures. Such ballots shall be validated and tallied under the supervision of the Election and Ballot Certification Board who shall certify the results and notify the Vice President-Administration/Secretary. The Vice President-Administration/Secretary shall promptly mail a copy of the certification of results to the members of the Local Council.

Silly, silly boys!:rolleyes:

Freightbird 05-09-2007 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by AerisArmis (Post 162694)
Also, I had a friend turn 60 last Jan. The co. told him he could go on personal Leave of Absence for up to 90 days. Per section 13 of the contract, you can apply for additional 90 day extentions for up to 24 months. During this period, you get no pay and no pension and your longevity stops after 60 days. Let's see, do we know anybody dumb enough to do this just so he can fly till he dies? I mean, other than George?

One Airbus Captain had his 60th birthday on Febuary 22, 2007 and is now on loa as he trains for a corporate jet job in BUR.

FDX28 05-09-2007 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 162724)
Silly, silly boys!

My mention of a recall is not only aimed at the age 60 thing. Regardless of what the issue is, if OUR ELECTED leadership (not dictatorship) is not a voice for the pilot group, then you and I have no real voice. As FreightDoggyDog said this is the second major issue where the MEC knew better than the membership. A Union is a collective voice for us, or at least that is the intent.

But at least I'm not quitting just because I'm not getting my way. :rolleyes: A boy would take his toys home, I'm staying put.

Thank you for your consideration and hope you have a lovely day.:)

FoxHunter 05-09-2007 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by FDX28 (Post 162730)
My mention of a recall is not only aimed at the age 60 thing. Regardless of what the issue is, if OUR ELECTED leadership (not dictatorship) is not a voice for the pilot group, then you and I have no real voice. As FreightDoggyDog said this is the second major issue where the MEC knew better than the membership. A Union is a collective voice for us, or at least that is the intent.

But at least I'm not quitting just because I'm not getting my way. :rolleyes: A boy would take his toys home, I'm staying put.

Thank you for your consideration and hope you have a lovely day.:)

You just don't understand how ALPA works.:(

PurpleFreight 05-09-2007 08:11 AM

If anyone who was there last night and is awake now can summarize what went down, those of us unable to make it would appreciate it. Thanks...


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