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...what was the FIRST issue where we didn't get a voice?
Not biting on the "company offer" a couple years back was baking up our negoatiating committee. What other issue did I miss? (Warning--I get easily distracted and have a short memory...this is not a smart-alec question) |
"...what was the FIRST issue where we didn't get a voice?"
How our scope penalty money would be used. It was supposed to come to us, instead it went to a fund for retiree health care whether we wanted it to or not. Not a huge deal at face value ($300 or so I think). At the time I had no problem with it but it was obviously a precendent setting move where the MEC told the members that they know better than they do about what is best for them. No vote, no poll, no say. Just like now. |
Originally Posted by AerisArmis
(Post 162692)
The Master seniority list is revised every July 1st. I think the Big Dick Cotton turned 60 last Aug.
Don't be so sure of yourself on this one. There is a guy that turned 60 in late Oct, still shows up as the #1 guy on the DC-10 CAP list and listed as NQN on his calendar, starting at his 60th b'day. Why does he still have a calendar if he's not trying to wait out the over 60 change by just taking a leave of absence? |
Originally Posted by AerisArmis
(Post 162694)
Also, I had a friend turn 60 last Jan. The co. told him he could go on personal Leave of Absence for up to 90 days. Per section 13 of the contract, you can apply for additional 90 day extentions for up to 24 months. During this period, you get no pay and no pension and your longevity stops after 60 days. Let's see, do we know anybody dumb enough to do this just so he can fly till he dies? I mean, other than George?
Uh, yes we probably do know some people dumb enough!:eek: |
Originally Posted by Freightbird
(Post 162725)
One Airbus Captain had his 60th birthday on Febuary 22, 2007 and is now on loa as he trains for a corporate jet job in BUR.
Contract 13.A.5 5. A pilot on a leave of absence shall not engage in other flying employment without prior written permission from the System Chief Pilot. One of JL's final signatures as CP? |
Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
(Post 162794)
Watch DC return be able to sleep in the left seat at show time of a line check.:(
Don't be so sure of yourself on this one. There is a guy that turned 60 in late Oct, still shows up as the #1 guy on the DC-10 CAP list and listed as NQN on his calendar, starting at his 60th b'day. Why does he still have a calendar if he's not trying to wait out the over 60 change by just taking a leave of absence? I think the NQN calendar just means that they are still on the master list. |
Originally Posted by FDX28
(Post 162804)
A friend of mine who retired (at age 60) this year 2007 still has a calendar and is shown NQN. He said he has absolutely no intent on coming back, doesn't even miss it. He's enjoying flying too much, oops I mean fly fishing. :cool:
I think the NQN calendar just means that they are still on the master list. |
Originally Posted by FreightDawgyDog
(Post 162789)
"...what was the FIRST issue where we didn't get a voice?"
How our scope penalty money would be used. It was supposed to come to us, instead it went to a fund for retiree health care whether we wanted it to or not. Not a huge deal at face value ($300 or so I think). At the time I had no problem with it but it was obviously a precendent setting move where the MEC told the members that they know better than they do about what is best for them. No vote, no poll, no say. Just like now. |
Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
(Post 162813)
This may be true, but I know there are some on LOA trying to wait this out.
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Originally Posted by FDX28
(Post 162827)
Wasn't arguing with you or disagreeing with you, just was disseminating info that some retired guys do have calendars.
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