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Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso
(Post 163193)
I think the MC is elected by the MEC, so they can only be recalled by the MEC. MC is a position often borne of horse trading between various factions within a MEC. The loser in the horse trading often doesn't bother to run officially once they realize they won't get enough votes from the MEC. To get rid of a MC, you have to find out who on the MEC agrees with you and mount a recall effort against the MEC members who don't agree. You also better have a new MC in mind who isn't part of the current MEC and isn't part of the political process to recall the other MEC members or it's unlikely that you'd get many to stick their necks out on a recall movement. This is why recalls tend to occur more often at smaller carriers with smaller MEC's. By no means an impossibility and it has been done at carriers with larger numbers than FDX, but it has to be a very coordinated process. The machinations of the process are one the reasons MC's can sometimes feel that they can say whatever they wish without impunity.
No? Because the election of the MEC Chair is much like the electoral college for the President: people think they elect someone directly, but they don't. The only way to get a new MEC Chair is to have enough people on the MEC who are willing to support someone new. And the first way to get that is to get people on the LECs who will have a new view. I agree with everyone so far who has said that ALPA is us. However, when your representatives (not lords or dictators, but representatives who are supposed to represent your views) disappoint you, the solution is not to quit the union, boycott it or anything else. The solution is to elect people who truly represent your views and who will fight for them when the chips are down. I know that many people (including me) want something changed quickly, but that is just not going to happen. What CAN happen is a methodical change in makeup of the LECs, the MEC and eventually the Chairman so that they more accurately reflect the will of the majority. What that means is that everyone needs to participate. Remember what is happening now, and vow that it never happens again. |
From the FDX MEC Policy Manual:
"Any MEC Officer may be removed at any time, with or without cause, IAW ALPA Constitution and By Laws" Summary from the ALPA By Laws (the crucial stuff): - any officer of the MEC can be removed by a 2/3 vote of the MEC. So let's see - we've got 12 blocks that's 12 plus the Chair, Vice Chair and Sec=15?? Need 10 votes to overturn or at least 50% on the first vote and then a simple majority vote after. I suspect it'll be tough. |
Yep, it's tough. And for a reason, so that guys don't get tossed out for single issues.
But this (to me, at least) feels different. This is a single issue that is also a defining issue. So it looks tough on the surface, but might be easier when the actual straws are collected. This issue has generated more energy and involvement than anything I've ever seen, and people don't tend to forget when their careers have been sold out. |
I'm in
Originally Posted by Falconjet
(Post 162967)
I'm going to have to see if I can find a vendor to produce a Right Seat Only lanyard for those of us who are tired of taking it up the arse from ALPA and their cronies over at the APAAD. FJ |
How about wearing your ALPA lanyards backwards? My Co-star and I did today. The new all black look is symbolic of our mourning for the loss of our say on issues DW and the MEC know we don't agree with them on. Spread the word..
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If guys like Albief15 thinks he is entitled to a greater "piece of the pie" in future contract negotiations, he can wait & get his at the same time I get mine...slugging it out between 60 to 65. I didn't ask for it & don't want it but will have to find a way to deal with it & it doesn't include caving-in to someone who feels he deserves more now than someone else. Wait your turn & "get it" like the rest of us.
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Hey Freightdog. I quit wearing my lanyard when our alpa quit representing me
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Originally Posted by GOFRTRS
(Post 163258)
If guys like Albief15 thinks he is entitled to a greater "piece of the pie" in future contract negotiations, he can wait & get his at the same time I get mine...slugging it out between 60 to 65. I didn't ask for it & don't want it but will have to find a way to deal with it & it doesn't include caving-in to someone who feels he deserves more now than someone else. Wait your turn & "get it" like the rest of us.
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Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal
(Post 163237)
I'll buy ten and hand them out
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Wait your turn & "get it" like the rest of us. |
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