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BrownGirls YUM 05-08-2007 02:27 AM


Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 161938)
So ask yourself, how can you be a viable member of a Union and be a Republican?

The same way you can be a member of the NRA and be a democrat.

The same way you can be against legalizing heroin and be a libertarian.

Not everyone lets a single political party define all of their views.

FDXLAG 05-08-2007 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by Tuck (Post 161938)
So ask yourself, how can you be a viable member of a Union and be a Republican? Answer - you can't. Vote your conscience in all things - are you a Republican or a Democrat? Don't waste time in telling me how you support the idiot in the White House or whatever - what are your beliefs about unions and this rule? What party do you support? Do they support you?

ALPA was against this rule until they decided to be for it (sound like any democrats we know) and now they are against again. Were those guys in the 60's and 70's good union members? It would be sad to define your life only by a union label but sadder if you define your union label with only one issue.

AerisArmis 05-08-2007 06:01 AM

Dear lord, I'm just beginning an airline career and I would like you to force everybody to retire on their 60th birthday, however, one month before mine, I would like you to cause a change in the regs to 65 so I can stay. Thank you, Amen....your pal.. George. (p.s., I'll be needing some more help when I'm 64 years and 11 months)

42GO 05-08-2007 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by BrownGirls YUM (Post 161997)
The same way you can be a member of the NRA and be a democrat.

The same way you can be against legalizing heroin and be a libertarian.

Not everyone lets a single political party define all of their views.

Amen!!!!! One issue shouldn't define anyone...

Besides, If your old enough you might remember when ALPA fought like crazy to keep FEDEX from getting 727's but then we aren't supposed to bring that up are we. like 1978!!! (remember the no big airplanes for FEDEX campaign)

Busboy 05-08-2007 08:21 AM

Protecting seniority rights?

The current age 60 S/O's have no seniority rights, other than to the back seat.

Mr Webb is advocating giving them new rights! Not protecting their rights.

Let your reps know what you think!

FoxHunter 05-08-2007 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 162086)
Protecting seniority rights?

The current age 60 S/O's have no seniority rights, other than to the back seat.

Mr Webb is advocating giving them new rights! Not protecting their rights.

Let your reps know what you think!

I would hope you also can point out where the contract says that. The fact that you choose to ignore is that every over age S/O has the same seniority rights as you, or any other under age 60 FedEx pilot. The exception is that most of these S/Os(soon to be Captain again) happen to be senior to you.;)

Busboy 05-08-2007 09:01 AM

George, you ignorant slut!!

Why then don't they exercise those rights?

For the same reason you won't be allowed to after the rules are changed, unless you are given new rights.

By the way, less than 40 of the retreads are senior to me. That's not counting you. Yet!

Busboy 05-08-2007 09:12 AM

Hey...Don't you stand to lose about 500 numbers when you start having to use your Flt. Engr. seniority number?

FoxHunter 05-08-2007 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 162106)
George, you ignorant slut!!

Why then don't they exercise those rights?

For the same reason you won't be allowed to after the rules are changed, unless you are given new rights.

By the way, less than 40 of the retreads are senior to me. That's not counting you. Yet!

They don't exercise those rights because the "Regulated Age is 60", the "Regulated Age" will soon be 65 and then there is no longer any restriction.

FDX28 05-08-2007 10:39 AM

MEC Chairman, Captain Dave Webb, will be convening an ALPA meeting at the MEM AOC Tuesday night/Wednesday morning hub turn, May 8th beginning at 12:30 a.m.

He will be joined by members of the MEC. The major agenda item will be Age 60. Please make plans to attend.


From the message line. I guess enough people called....:)


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