No, he is not flamebaiting.

If DW and company want to do the Don Quixote thing and try and lead us where we don't want to go, we don't want their message to be heard at ALPA national or, if ALPA national jumps on board with DW, Congress.

It's been noted we have lots of important issues that ALPA needs a voice in--License harmonization, retirement rules, medical requirements, foreign ownership, cabotage. Very important point. Our voice will be diluted if we continue to push such "peripheral" issues as retroactive implementation. The FAA and Congress will treat us like we are rambling fools--if they don't already.

Yeah thats what Sandy Burglar was doing, hiding Bush propaganda.

And THEN they take it to both bills to the Compromise Committee to "iron out" the differences and the whole darn thing can be rewritten in some cases. That smoky room is where you really want your influence to be heard and acted upon.

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I won't argue that 10 years ago you certainly could have replaced "The Clinton Administration" for "The Bush Administration.". But currently the Buck stops on GWB's desk now, not Wild Bill's.

I was comparing the current environment to a previous poster who was compalining about Democracy (or lack there of) within the Confines of ALPA.

I would argue athat ALPA is far more Democratic in that Pilots have far more say in than we do as US citizens. We vote to ratify contracts, we vote to ratify LOA's. A memeber in Good standing can make resolutions at their LEC meetings.

Look there are many unpopular issues we as Pilots are currently facing and soon will be facing. Like it or not, ALPA is the only orgainization that is fighting for Pro-Pilot issues or more importantly is the only organization with the Assets to do so.

If you really think the Leaders, both local and National are going down the wrong path than do something about it! While I too was personally surpirsed and Upset initially, with what has recently happend, I do understand the reasoning and the thought process.

If you or anyone else thinks that they truelly can do better than it is time to
"Put up or Shut up" If you haven't already contacted your Status Block reps, then do so. Voice your complaints and ask what is being done. If you still aren't satisfied, then get enough support from the rest of your general membership and find someone who is more in touch and begin the recall process.

I will make this recommendation: Before you do that you better have a suitable candidate in mind who is wiling to do the job.
Because when you recall and an office goes unfilled or unopposed, often
a less disireable individual can slip in and you will be worse off than you are now.

Good luck

Yah!! Wow!! You got him there!!

Don't forget to throw in such meaningful retorts as Spiro, Billygate, Ollie North, and Watergate.

Don't forget whitewater since hillary's soon to be ALPAs "man".

Thank you for your always inciteful input, Mr. Hannity.

There is no shortage of scandals in Washington.....from either Party.

Your welcome Mr. Moore.

True, and I would leave political comments for political threads if others will.