Alpa Fdx
05-11-2007, 08:02 AM
#331
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,238
1. How long have you been here (FDX)?
2. Is FDX your first Major Airline Job?
3. Would you agree that seniority is foundation of our system?
2. Is FDX your first Major Airline Job?
3. Would you agree that seniority is foundation of our system?
1. 5 years
2. Fedex is my third airline, and I flew corporate before that. Got my ticket signed in 1986, if that makes any difference. (I've also flown 60 makes and models, been through 10 part 121 training programs, including both the DC-10 twice and the MD-11 twice, and was an MD-11 captain when I came here. There... I feel much better....)
3. If I was a smart-aleck I'd say evidently not, because I'm going to lose about 5 years' worth from all this (or more if the FE's come back). But I'll just say that we all knew the game coming in - make hay till you're sixty and then you lose your seniority or get to only use it on a panel. Don't give me the "seniority is a bedrock of our profession." So was age 60. So bedrocks don't always last forever.
All this "young feller" talk is to say, you don't count for much. We'll let you pull gear and pay dues, but you ain't sh!t at this company until you're a widebody captain. O.K., I can deal with that. I know where I stand with you Redeye. Let's see where that gets us....
05-11-2007, 08:09 AM
#332
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2005
Position: Retired
Posts: 980
If I understand it, your premise is, if the new rules are written so that it is at all legally possible for a current over 60 to return to a window seat (which even DW thinks is a remote possiility,) screw him, he's old so keep him out of the front seat.
So, how do you feel about the guys who hit 60 at the other carriers with no back seat? Do you support their right to reclaim their jobs and seniority? How about our over 60s who wanted to keep flying but were presented with the choice of having a bigger retirement check than they could make as an S/O and hence, for economic reasons, retired?
If retroctivety is approved, I don't think it's a stretch to throw these guys in the mix. The feds have publicly stated that these guys and the over 60 S/Os will not go back, why not fight for all of them?
So, how do you feel about the guys who hit 60 at the other carriers with no back seat? Do you support their right to reclaim their jobs and seniority? How about our over 60s who wanted to keep flying but were presented with the choice of having a bigger retirement check than they could make as an S/O and hence, for economic reasons, retired?
If retroctivety is approved, I don't think it's a stretch to throw these guys in the mix. The feds have publicly stated that these guys and the over 60 S/Os will not go back, why not fight for all of them?
If retroactivity happens to be approved by Congress the FAA has no say. I believe any pilot forced off their list on or after November 23, 2006 should be returned.
05-11-2007, 08:17 AM
#335
Banned
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: Window Seat -- Left Side
Posts: 112
ALPA-PAC and Age 65 -- FedEx
Gooch and others,
I just REVOKED my ALPA-PAC contribution. Simply e-mail ALPA at: [email protected]
Include your name, airline, member number, and intentions to discontinue support of ALPA-PAC.
This was not a knee-jerk reaction for me. I have read and heard all of the rhetoric. I am an active member of ALPA, and active FedEx ALPA committee member, and I do my fair share to support the organization. I will continue to do so.
However, the reversal of policy at the national level and local support by the FedEx MEC has greatly disappointed me. Each and every airline pilot that signed on to this profession knew the rules on Age 60 from the start. The excuses will continue to mount and the bandwagon is getting full.
The AGE 65 legislative process has proved divisive and will continue that direction for a long time. There are many compelling viewpoints on each side of the issue. Time to make some tough choices.
If the change does occur, the career progression across the spectrum will have far reaching effects on retirement, quality of life, and finances for EVERY pilot junior to those who continue past Age 60.
I will also support a recall of the leadership at the national and local level. In fact I pledge to be an integral part of the process. Talk is cheap, actions matter.
Consider the impact on you, your family, and your future -- vote accordingly with your hard earned $$$ and your recall ballot.
NKA
I just REVOKED my ALPA-PAC contribution. Simply e-mail ALPA at: [email protected]
Include your name, airline, member number, and intentions to discontinue support of ALPA-PAC.
This was not a knee-jerk reaction for me. I have read and heard all of the rhetoric. I am an active member of ALPA, and active FedEx ALPA committee member, and I do my fair share to support the organization. I will continue to do so.
However, the reversal of policy at the national level and local support by the FedEx MEC has greatly disappointed me. Each and every airline pilot that signed on to this profession knew the rules on Age 60 from the start. The excuses will continue to mount and the bandwagon is getting full.
The AGE 65 legislative process has proved divisive and will continue that direction for a long time. There are many compelling viewpoints on each side of the issue. Time to make some tough choices.
If the change does occur, the career progression across the spectrum will have far reaching effects on retirement, quality of life, and finances for EVERY pilot junior to those who continue past Age 60.
I will also support a recall of the leadership at the national and local level. In fact I pledge to be an integral part of the process. Talk is cheap, actions matter.
Consider the impact on you, your family, and your future -- vote accordingly with your hard earned $$$ and your recall ballot.
NKA
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