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05-13-2007, 01:22 PM
#481
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Originally Posted by Roberto
3. Everyone will get 5 more years of pay, and at least the same, but probably more, years of captains pay....
More years of Captain's pay? How so?
If you mean more will medical out and make it so, what if you are the one to medical out? Then its 5 more years of FO pay and less Captains pay.
05-13-2007, 01:45 PM
#482
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Originally Posted by Gunter
More years of Captain's pay? How so?
If you mean more will medical out and make it so, what if you are the one to medical out? Then its 5 more years of FO pay and less Captains pay.
If you mean more will medical out and make it so, what if you are the one to medical out? Then its 5 more years of FO pay and less Captains pay.
05-13-2007, 02:05 PM
#483
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Originally Posted by Roberto
A lot of us, when given the opportunity to stay 5 more years, will not stay the entire 5 years. That would lesson the delay to captain for those following.... it would probably be more like a 2 or 3 year push... If that following person chose to stay until 65, it would give some additional years as captain.
FJ
05-13-2007, 02:13 PM
#484
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Originally Posted by Roberto
3. Everyone will get 5 more years of pay, and at least the same, but probably more, years of captains pay.... A considerable increase in lifetime earnings will be available for all. Earned income, medical and other benefits, defined benefit pension plan, and money purchase pension plan all increase, if one so chooses.
Regards,
Mark
05-13-2007, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
Sorry, I just posted this on another thread.
Foxhunter? Can you please tell us the answer.
I just thought of something...I think the French didn't go along with ICAO on the age 65 thing. And, who says they don't have a backbone? But, does that mean our, soon to be, over age 60 F/O's and Capts will not be allowed to operate from a CDG domicile? Or even into their country?
See:
http://www.jaa.nl/licensing/pilots.html
Foxhunter? Can you please tell us the answer.
I just thought of something...I think the French didn't go along with ICAO on the age 65 thing. And, who says they don't have a backbone? But, does that mean our, soon to be, over age 60 F/O's and Capts will not be allowed to operate from a CDG domicile? Or even into their country?
See:
http://www.jaa.nl/licensing/pilots.html
There has been some pressure from French pilots to raise their age limit to 65 but that really goes against their culture that believes everyone should retire on a government guaranteed pension at age 50-55.
05-13-2007, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
Hey Roberto ... NEWS FLASH! Some of us don't want 5 MORE years. I planned to retire at 60 and guys like you threaten that opportunity. I've saved, invested and looked forward to many years in retirement. Those guys that are on their 3rd wives, made poor investments and bought Corvettes and vacation houses shouldn't be MY problem.
05-13-2007, 02:51 PM
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You can retire whenever you want. It is your choice.
What a great choice!!! ****
Last edited by Boom Boom; 05-13-2007 at 02:52 PM. Reason: spelling...
05-13-2007, 03:06 PM
#488
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Originally Posted by SleepyF18
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Your last concern about not being represented is a valid one. I would ask you though, do you feel that a leadership group should follow their memberships' majority if they feel it is wrong? Do we elect leaders to blindly follow us over a perceived cliff or do we elect them to make the hard, sometimes unpopular, decisions?
Your last concern about not being represented is a valid one. I would ask you though, do you feel that a leadership group should follow their memberships' majority if they feel it is wrong? Do we elect leaders to blindly follow us over a perceived cliff or do we elect them to make the hard, sometimes unpopular, decisions?
I have to say yes, I do expect you to vote the desires of the membership even if they conflict with your own beliefs. Our LEC and MEC members are elected as REPRESENTATIVES first, and are therefore expected to REPRESENT the membership. You have the right and responsibility to educate and lobby the membership regarding your opinions, but, in the end, you are morally obligated to represent your constituents desires on the ballot.
Just my views of how a representative democracy should work,
Z
05-13-2007, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Boom Boom
What kinda Crack you smokin.... That will become the new mandatory retirement age and ... walla.. We can retire before that----> With a penalty!!!
What a great choice!!! ****
What a great choice!!! ****
05-13-2007, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
That depends on how the retirement plan is written. At Flying Tigers early retirement at age 50 was pemitted with no penalty if you had completed 25 years service.
They may--but it WILL cost us SERIOUS negotiating horsepower...READ MORE DOLLARS AND CENTS OUT OF ALL OF OUR POCKETS!
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