Question for UPS folks on furloughs
05-09-2007, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rollndadice
A question for the people at UPS. I remember several years ago that UPS mgmt. threatened/ started to furlough 100 pilots. What did your union do to stop that? Was their an overtime ban/stop/self stop? ABX is furloughing and overtime is so rampant that we have many guys working if not every day almost every day each month and selling back their vacation. It is not right that people are making huge amounts of cash while guys are being furloughed. Thanks!
05-09-2007, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Brown Cow
ABX is not in the same league. Even though some of our guys break the rules by picking up open time and over time; there is a reason why the folks at ABX aren't working for UPS.
I agree ABX and UPS are not in the same league. However, you can still compare both pilot groups. The question was asked because members of 1224 do not understand how to fix this apparent cancer which seems to plague our group. I'm not sure why some folks at ABX are not working for UPS. If you're implying that we're less than qualified, you're very mistaken. We all fly 767s or douglas equipment to similar destinations with equal aplomb. I doubt our inherent selfishness precludes us from working at UPS although it explains why few of us apply. Simply, all of us have worked here 8+ years and are raising families just like you. I guess that is selfishness. I believe the original poster is serious in his inquiry. We need the benefit of experiences that appear to work. Thanks.
Last edited by Two-percent; 05-09-2007 at 09:21 PM.
05-09-2007, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FliFast
Amen, HMP
My opinion is at AA picking up of open time is not shunned because the one's on furlough were acquired, not hired. just an opinion.
FF
My opinion is at AA picking up of open time is not shunned because the one's on furlough were acquired, not hired. just an opinion.
FF
05-10-2007, 05:16 AM
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To add...I did start this post to look at what has worked at other airlines. At ABX we need to fix not only the overtime, but the division of senior versus junior. Our most junior pilot is working in his 6th year. We have all payed our dues: both union and the figuritive ones. It is time our union steps up and says "working double your scheduled days in a month (basically every day) while the company furloughs is morally wrong".
Regardless of were we all work, we are all after the same goal: security for our families, and maybe making life a little easier on the next generation.
Regardless of were we all work, we are all after the same goal: security for our families, and maybe making life a little easier on the next generation.
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